Conor Orr (from Si.com) and his prediction: Bills at 9-8 🤔

[Saxum]

10 hours ago, MJS said:

What do people see in the Patriots? They clearly have the least talented roster in the division.

 

They have talent in cheating that no one else can match.

[frostbitmic]

I just did the Playoff Predictors game and was somewhat surprised by my results. I didn't look at records until I was done.

 

4. Miami 10-7   4-2 

9. Buffalo 9-8   4-2

10. NYJ    9-8   2-4

14. N.E    5-12  2-4

 

I hope I'm way off. I think the Bills would beat the London Jaguars at home but will lose overseas. Then I have them coming back flat from that trip and get beat by a visiting Giants team who had this game circled as soon as the schedule came out. You know Daboll wants to beat the clapper.

 

At least I see the patriots for the stink they are.

[FLFan]

22 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said:

We're a better team than last year's squad.  This guy is crazy.

Why be mean?  Why?  We come here to share thoughts and opinions.  If nobody cares, why do we do this?  

Because he is a notorious Dolphins fan and troll, and has been for years under different monikers.  I am sick of his act.  That’s why.  

[PBF81]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

And that's the thing a lot of people in the media can't get past. It seems all 4 teams will be competitive. The outlooks is always the same..."The Bills are in trouble.". It's like only the Bills have to play 2 against the Pats, Jets and Fins. But they all play each other twitch and at some point of the season attrition will likely set in. One or two of the teams will possibly pull away from the others in head to head. The most likely scenario I see is the Jets giving Miami fits. That secondary may be a poor matchup for Miami. I see the Pats taking a game from each of the Jets and Fins. 

 

If Buffalo can manage 4-2 in the division I see that as a huge benefit. 

 

Yeah, not sure about the Jets and Fins.  Miami's taken 5 of the last 6 with their only loss having been last season when Skylar Thompson was playing in his first game, @ Jets.  Those two teams seem to consider the other the primary rivalry in the East.  It was Bills v. Miami years ago when it was Kelly/Marino.  

 

Also, it could be that the people you cite seem to think that McD's not as good a coach like so many in Mafia land seem to believe as part of their assessment.  

 

As for us, no reason to be concerned about the Fins, which Allen owns, and if we lose to the Pats it'll be our own fault.  But while we've beaten the Jets in 5 of our last 6 matchups over the past three seasons, last season they were our two worst games offensiveyl speaking, and we averaged only 18.5 PPG to their 16.  We averaged 29 PPG against them under Daboll scoring 27, 27, and 45 in three of those games in the two seasons prior.  We'll see what Dorsey has planned.  

 

Either way, IMO that first @ Jets game may end up being a lot more significant than many realize, per our exchange.  

 

 

[stinky finger]

9 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I don't think the Patriots will win the division, but I could see the Bills having a disappointing season.

 

With the difficult division games, I think we will split with Miami, sweep the Patriots, and we could either split with the jets or be swept.  The Jets defense has played the Bills really tough the last two years.

 

With the difficult non division games, I could see the Bills going 7-4 or 6-5.

 

Based on those potential outcomes, the Bills final season record could be anywhere from 11-6 to 9-8.

 

My biggest concern is the loss of Edmunds.  I was disappointing that no move was made to upgrade the middle linebacker position in the off season and instead we rolled the dice on existing players to fill the void.

 

All the people that bashed Edmunds on this board in the past will see what we had in Edmunds with our defense falling out of the top five this year.

 

Just my opinion.

I could give a flying **** where the D ranks.

 

Just make the big stop when required.

[LABILLBACKER]

Yes we have a brutal schedule but this season is more about whether McDermott or Dorsey are worthy to keep their jobs.

[MasterStrategist]

9-8 is a likely worse-case, would take Josh missing multiple games.  Just liking saying we go 15-2, possible but highly unlikely.

 

Division: 5-1.  there will be close games with all 3 teams but think we sweep Pats and Jets, lose 1 to Miami

 

Toughest 3 games: 1-2. Bengals/Chiefs/Eagles -this will be our true measuring stick, likely top 2 contenders in AFC again.  I see us beating Cincy, losing a very close game to Chiefs and another L to Philly

 

Tier 2 teams: 3-0.

Jax/Dallas/Chargers: I think Dallas will be the toughest game, Chargers will be close as well

 

Tier 3 teams: 2-0

Giants/TB.  Dabolls return.  I'm not a believer in Daniel Jones, and think Daboll overachieved (hence COTY award) LY.  Tampa's QB situation is horrible I'd be tempted to move them into Tier 4, and a Thursday night game in Buffalo will be huge advantage us.

 

Tier 4 teams: 3-0

Den/Raiders/WFT - these should be wins for many reasons, I guess anything is possible; just think we should win all 3 by double digits.

 

14-3.  I'm still a big believer in Dorsey improving his playcalling, and the run game/OL improvements.  Defensively, I think our secondary is being underrated again.  Mike linebacker is the only concern, but think it gets figured out one way or another.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

Who?

[78thealltimegreat]

12 hours ago, Italian Bills said:

Ok, everything in sport is possible, but com’on, calling the Bills at a 9-8 season it seem a little exaggerated to me. 
 

And plus the Pats winning the Division. 
 

I leave the link for you to see. 
 

Comments (honest) ?

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/24/nfl-season-preview-predicting-every-game-daily-cover

 

 

This guy knows Bills fans eat this up like you just did and he’s looking for clicks. This is just one of those fan bases that so wants to be liked by the National Media and the National Media just uses Bills fans for their agenda.
It is what it is. Josh Allen alone gets this team double digit wins. 

1 hour ago, frostbitmic said:

I just did the Playoff Predictors game and was somewhat surprised by my results. I didn't look at records until I was done.

 

4. Miami 10-7   4-2 

9. Buffalo 9-8   4-2

10. NYJ    9-8   2-4

14. N.E    5-12  2-4

 

I hope I'm way off. I think the Bills would beat the London Jaguars at home but will lose overseas. Then I have them coming back flat from that trip and get beat by a visiting Giants team who had this game circled as soon as the schedule came out. You know Daboll wants to beat the clapper.

 

At least I see the patriots for the stink they are.

The Giants may actually finish last in their division depending on Sam Howell. Bills better not lose that game. 

[noacls]

1 hour ago, stinky finger said:

I could give a flying **** where the D ranks.

 

Just make the big stop when required.

27-10 Yeah, who cares about defense. Lol

[Bubba Gump]

I think we will know a lot more about this team after week 2. If they get beat in NJ and then come home and lay a 💩 in the home opener, then I'll start to panic. 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

He has the pats going 6-0 in the division lol 

 

This screams, I can't get past the Patriots are gonna be bad and teams like the bills and jets are gonna curb stomp them 

 

Much higher probability of the pats going winless in the division

Edited August 25, 2023 by Cheektowaga Chad

[PatsFanNH]

3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

It's a curious take and he knows it.  Of course, opinions are like anuses, and everyone has one.  

 

I think he's swinging for fences with his argument that Bill O' Brien will revitalize the offense and propel the Pats into first place of the AFCE.  No one will give you credit for picking the Bills.  We've owned the AFCE for a few years now.  Picking the Fins or Jets may be a sexy option because of the improvements to their rosters.  But if Orr is right about the Pats, he can lay claim to being the NFL's new Nostradamus.  

I think he is right about O’Brian making the Pats O respectable again. The problem is their schedule is just BRUTAL!  A 10-7 record for the Pats is the top of their potential. While 9-8 would be the wheels absolutely falling off for the Bills. I just don’t see that happening

[Gregg]

7 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

He has the pats going 6-0 in the division lol 

 

This screams, I can't get past the Patriots are gonna be bad and teams like the bills and jets are gonna curb stomp them 

 

Much higher probability of the pats going winless in the division

 

The Pats have a 14-game winning streak against the Jets. Haven't lost to them since Dec 2015. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Yes we have a brutal schedule but this season is more about whether McDermott or Dorsey are worthy to keep their jobs.

Whole lotta people gonna be AWFUL upset when McDermott returns next year.

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

12 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I don't think the Patriots will win the division, but I could see the Bills having a disappointing season.

 

With the difficult division games, I think we will split with Miami, sweep the Patriots, and we could either split with the jets or be swept.  The Jets defense has played the Bills really tough the last two years.

 

With the difficult non division games, I could see the Bills going 7-4 or 6-5.

 

Based on those potential outcomes, the Bills final season record could be anywhere from 11-6 to 9-8.

 

My biggest concern is the loss of Edmunds.  I was disappointing that no move was made to upgrade the middle linebacker position in the off season and instead we rolled the dice on existing players to fill the void.

 

All the people that bashed Edmunds on this board in the past will see what we had in Edmunds with our defense falling out of the top five this year.

 

Just my opinion.

I’ve been saying the same thing as well. Receivers are going to be feasting in the middle of the field. Having Milano and a healthy Von Miller (at some point) certainly helps cover up some. Hopefully McD dials up a more aggressive defense and Rousseau keeps trending upwards. 

Edited August 25, 2023 by ChronicAndKnuckles

[Buffalo Super Fan]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Yes we have a brutal schedule but this season is more about whether McDermott or Dorsey are worthy to keep their jobs.

Exactly with Sean McDermott but I think if the Buffalo Bills decide to move on from Sean McDermott Ken Dorsey will be the potential Buffalo Bills replacement head coach because Terry Pegula foolishly extended Sean McDermott. So the Buffalo Bills aren’t eating that kind of money with Highmark Stadium 2 over runs it’s not happening. I expect 12-5 this season for the Buffalo Bills but unfortunately losing to the Kansas City Chiefs again with Sean McDermott not having this football team prepared unfortunately. I hope I am wrong.
 

Just remember the Buffalo Bills aren’t spending a lot of money until the new stadium is opened producing revenues for PSE. The Buffalo Bills got there Stadium until it’s opens there is no incentive for PSE to spend unfortunately because they have cash problems according to John Warrow of AP News. John Warrow was on WGRZ channel 2 Town Hall talking about potential cuts to both the Buffalo Sabres and even the NLL champions Buffalo Bandits. And some Buffalo fans don’t understand why I don’t like Terry Pegula and am critical of him and PSE stuff like that is why. I shouldn’t be hearing about PSE money problems that isn’t normal owners who have stuff together don’t do that. Terry Pegula is alway crying to the media with his representatives and it’s getting old. I don’t care PSE has cash flow problems sell to Delaware North if you are that poor Terry Pegula if not zip it because I don’t care as a Buffalo Bills fan about your billionaire cash flow problems because you are incompetent running a sports business. Cheap crap like that is why. Punishing the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits with cuts potentially because of the overpaid crap in the terrible designed and planned new Buffalo Bills stadium.
 

My prediction if PSE cuts stuff from the Buffalo Bandits and Buffalo Sabres potentially we Buffalo fans are going to be more critical of Terry Pegula and that new stadium even more. Shameful I couldn’t believe what I was hearing from John Warrow. If that happens there is no hope under PSE ownership for the Buffalo Bills sell the franchise. Cut the fancy Buffalo Bills players crap if there needs to be cuts to save money. I am tired as a Buffalo Bills fan hearing the players nonsense too your a team act like it. The Buffalo Bills players are paid enough already there locker room comforts don’t matter to me over the NLL champions Buffalo Bandits who are by the way Champions not pretenders like the Buffalo Bills. To Sean McDermott start acting like a head coach and leader. As a Buffalo Bills fan I don’t want to hear about Stefon Diggs and Josh Allen problems. I shouldn’t be hearing anything but the Buffalo Bills are here to win a Super Bowl championship for Buffalo that is it seems pretty simple to me. All this gets back to bad leadership at the top starting with PSE ownership Terry Pegula he is allowing all this nonsense to happen just remember that because of his poor leadership and management skills. If PSE can’t or won’t get it together sell the teams in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[MikePJ76]

Going to be a tough challenging schedule.  I really hope they can win 4 games in the division and win the division and set themselves up for a playoff run.

[maddenboy]

6 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

Lmao force of habit still am not use to 17 games.. not a real fan of odd numbers.

i suspect the NFL knows you arent

 

which is why they will 'reward' us with 'relief' when they move to 18

5 hours ago, FLFan said:

Don’t bother with your “official prediction.”  Literally no one cares.  

disagree

 

sometimes i watch CNN.  sometimes FOX.  sometimes MSNBC.  Sometimes BBC

 

I know what i'm getting before i choose it.  Sometimes i'm in the mood for a contrary opinion. 

 

Also, maybe its immaturity, but i do love to watch a fight.

[BILLieve85]

1 hour ago, I am leaving for good said:

Exactly with Sean McDermott but I think if the Buffalo Bills decide to move on from Sean McDermott Ken Dorsey will be the potential Buffalo Bills replacement head coach because Terry Pegula foolishly extended Sean McDermott. So the Buffalo Bills aren’t eating that kind of money with Highmark Stadium 2 over runs it’s not happening. I expect 12-5 this season for the Buffalo Bills but unfortunately losing to the Kansas City Chiefs again with Sean McDermott not having this football team prepared unfortunately. I hope I am wrong.
 

Just remember the Buffalo Bills aren’t spending a lot of money until the new stadium is opened producing revenues for PSE. The Buffalo Bills got there Stadium until it’s opens there is no incentive for PSE to spend unfortunately because they have cash problems according to John Warrow of AP News. John Warrow was on WGRZ channel 2 Town Hall talking about potential cuts to both the Buffalo Sabres and even the NLL champions Buffalo Bandits. And some Buffalo fans don’t understand why I don’t like Terry Pegula and am critical of him and PSE stuff like that is why. I shouldn’t be hearing about PSE money problems that isn’t normal owners who have stuff together don’t do that. Terry Pegula is alway crying to the media with his representatives and it’s getting old. I don’t care PSE has cash flow problems sell to Delaware North if you are that poor Terry Pegula if not zip it because I don’t care as a Buffalo Bills fan about your billionaire cash flow problems because you are incompetent running a sports business. Cheap crap like that is why. Punishing the Buffalo Sabres and Buffalo Bandits with cuts potentially because of the overpaid crap in the terrible designed and planned new Buffalo Bills stadium.
 

My prediction if PSE cuts stuff from the Buffalo Bandits and Buffalo Sabres potentially we Buffalo fans are going to be more critical of Terry Pegula and that new stadium even more. Shameful I couldn’t believe what I was hearing from John Warrow. If that happens there is no hope under PSE ownership for the Buffalo Bills sell the franchise. Cut the fancy Buffalo Bills players crap if there needs to be cuts to save money. I am tired as a Buffalo Bills fan hearing the players nonsense too your a team act like it. The Buffalo Bills players are paid enough already there locker room comforts don’t matter to me over the NLL champions Buffalo Bandits who are by the way Champions not pretenders like the Buffalo Bills. To Sean McDermott start acting like a head coach and leader. As a Buffalo Bills fan I don’t want to hear about Stefon Diggs and Josh Allen problems. I shouldn’t be hearing anything but the Buffalo Bills are here to win a Super Bowl championship for Buffalo that is it seems pretty simple to me. All this gets back to bad leadership at the top starting with PSE ownership Terry Pegula he is allowing all this nonsense to happen just remember that because of his poor leadership and management skills. If PSE can’t or won’t get it together sell the teams in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

They’re not. Let me repeat. Not selling the Bills. They’ll unload every other asset before the Bills..