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Would you give up a 4th round pick or later for Trey Lance?  

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  1. 1. Would you give up a 4th round pick or later for Trey Lance?

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    • I would give up a pick higher than 4. (explain)


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I know some here feel that backup QB is a weakness for the Bills this season.  I have no idea what the 49ers are willing to trade him for, but since he is a 3rd string QB on their roster, and they have a decent 4th QB right now, they may take less than I originally thought.  I personally would gladly trade a 4th or lower for him, because his style of play is a closer fit to Josh Allen than our current backups.

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I would if I could but it would be contingent on a 2 year extension (acceptable base with lots of upside). Worst case scenario you have a solid backup for a few years. If he plays and succeeds, you have an elite trade chip. I think that it raises the floor on this team (he is better than Kyle Allen and Barkley). It potentially raises the ceiling if he shows out and they trade him.

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Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

I would if I could but it would be contingent on a 2 year extension (acceptable base with lots of upside). Worst case scenario you have a solid backup for a few years. If he plays and succeeds, you have an elite trade chip. I think that it raises the floor on this team (he is better than Kyle Allen and Barkley). It potentially raises the ceiling if he shows out and they trade him.

He would not accept the 2 year extension. He will want to go somewhere to compete for a starting job. Atlanta, TB, Vikings etc would give him a better salary and an opportunity. 
 

This isn’t a Trubisky-type guy who needs to rehab his image. He hasn't played. 

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1 minute ago, FireChans said:

He would not accept the 2 year extension. He will want to go somewhere to compete for a starting job. Atlanta, TB, Vikings etc would give him a better salary and an opportunity. 
 

This isn’t a Trubisky-type guy who needs to rehab his image. He hasn't played. 

Maybe, maybe not, he is in a similar situation to when Trubisky came to the Bills. He does need to rehab his image as apparently he is playing behind Darnold. MAYBE, someone like Atlanta, looks at him as a potential starter. If not, he needs to go to an established program and rebuild his value. Right now, the perception is, “he must not be very good.”

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2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Maybe, maybe not, he is in a similar situation to when Trubisky came to the Bills. He does need to rehab his image as apparently he is playing behind Darnold. MAYBE, someone like Atlanta, looks at him as a potential starter. If not, he needs to go to an established program and rebuild his value. Right now, the perception is, “he must not be very good.”

Hard disagree. I think his perception is much more "maybe he can still be good," than Trubisky was. Mitch had played 50 games for the Bears, there was a book out on him.

 

Lance is MUCH more unknown, imo.  That's a good thing for the Niners, honestly, because it drives his value up.

 

Trubisky didn't even have a trade market. We are talking about a fourth for Lance. That should be proof enough the situations are not the same.

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he's either 3rd or 4th QB on 49ers. Why give up anything for him? If he couldn't beat out Darnold he can't be that good and will probably be released

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I would take him for a 6 or 7 and then hope to move him for a 3 or 4 in a year or two if he plays well next year in the preseason.

 

He is not worth any pick of real value

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1 minute ago, nucci said:

he's either 3rd or 4th QB on 49ers. Why give up anything for him? If he couldn't beat out Darnold he can't be that good and will probably be released

It is possible that part of why he "is not good" is because of the offense that Shanahan runs.  It may require a more cerebral QB, like Purdy and Darnold, to run it effectively.  This does not mean that Lance couldn't be successful in a different system.  If the price was low enough, and we could work out the contract to have him as a backup for a couple of years, it might be worth a look.  

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58 minutes ago, FireChans said:

No. We wouldn’t pick up his option and we wouldn’t re-sign him. Why rent a backup project? 

He is under contract for two years. Compared to Barkley and Kyle Allen who are on one-year deals. What if develops into a serviceable backup?

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5 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said:

He is under contract for two years. Compared to Barkley and Kyle Allen who are on one-year deals. What if develops into a serviceable backup?

Why would we dedicate much money for a serviceable backup? 
 

There are 21 other positions I’d rather spend money on.

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2 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said:

He is under contract for two years. Compared to Barkley and Kyle Allen who are on one-year deals. What if develops into a serviceable backup?

At $3.7 million this year and $5.3 next year all guaranteed, that's a hard NO.  https://overthecap.com/player/trey-lance/9467

Year         Base Salary     Roster Bonus    Total Salary

2023        $940,000       $2,820,478        $3,760,478        

2024        $1,055,000    $4,255,717         $5,310,717        

 

 

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1 hour ago, Special K said:

If a team is willing to get rid of a guy that they traded three first round picks for, what does that tell you about his abilities?

 

He must be AWESOME!

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1 hour ago, Special K said:

If a team is willing to get rid of a guy that they traded three first round picks for, what does that tell you about his abilities?

If a smart team spent three first round picks on a guy, what does that say about his raw talent level?  See how that works?

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