B-Man Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 ‘The Elephant Not in the Room’: GOP Presidential Candidates Dance around Trump in First Primary Debate by Ryan Mills The eight Republican presidential hopefuls who participated in Wednesday night’s spirited, and at times unruly debate, went after one another over their ages and qualifications, and their positions on a federal abortion ban and on increasing aid to Ukraine. They debated whether America has a national identity crisis, whether they would authorize lethal force at the southern border, and whether climate change is a “hoax.” But the eight candidates were generally loath to delve too deep into one critical subject — the subject that Fox New moderator Bret Baier called the “elephant not in the room”— Donald Trump, the former president who is crushing them all https://www.nationalreview.com/news/the-elephant-not-in-the-room-gop-presidential-candidates-dance-around-trump-in-first-primary-debate/ . 1
The Frankish Reich Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 2:33 PM, Doc said: I'm sure that when Vivek's parents arrived in Cincy they said "hey, we're Brahmins, we're elite! Give us everything!" Expand No doubt they worked hard, and they put their money where their mouths were, paying to send Vivek to a Catholic High School and then onto Harvard. The whole "Brahmin" line of criticism strikes me as stupid and an attempt to subtly call attention to "not one of us." Out of curiosity: is he a vegetarian? If so, how does he avoid all those meat-eating Iowa campaign events? 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 2:43 PM, The Frankish Reich said: No doubt they worked hard, and they put their money where their mouths were, paying to send Vivek to a Catholic High School and then onto Harvard. The whole "Brahmin" line of criticism strikes me as stupid and an attempt to subtly call attention to "not one of us." Out of curiosity: is he a vegetarian? If so, how does he avoid all those meat-eating Iowa campaign events? Expand it reads like a script anymore.
SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 The amount of pure racist crap on here today is beyond over the top! 1 3 1
The Frankish Reich Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:07 PM, SoCal Deek said: The amount of pure racist crap on here today is beyond over the top! Expand This will not please the gods. The gods will descend on the Hypothetical One Bills Drive. Expect a Severe Weather Warning. 2
Tommy Callahan Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:07 PM, SoCal Deek said: The amount of pure racist crap on here today is beyond over the top! Expand I think they started drinking while waiting for trump to show in Georgia. Something.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 24, 2023 Author Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:07 PM, SoCal Deek said: The amount of pure racist crap on here today is beyond over the top! Expand the liberal double standard always shows itself. It just takes a catalyst. the Democratic Party remains one of the most racist political parties in the history of the world.
HomeskillitMoorman Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) Just wondering…if Vivek becomes President in ‘24 or ‘28 and does incredible things and reforms the country and improves the lives of millions of people and unifies our country in one of its most politically divisive eras…would he still deserve to suffer excruciatingly and rot non-stop in Hell for eternity because he didn’t believe in Jesus as his savior according to a solid chunk of the Conservative Christian base? Edited August 24, 2023 by HomeskillitMoorman
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:40 PM, HomeskillitMoorman said: Just wondering…if Vivek becomes President in ‘24 or ‘28 and does incredible things and reforms the country and improves the lives of millions of people and unifies our country in one of its most politically divisive eras…would he still deserve to suffer excruciatingly and rot non-stop in Hell for eternity because he didn’t believe in Jesus as his savior according to a solid chunk of the Conservative Christian base? Expand Non-believers are sinners. They, like those born before Christ, the Greeks for instance, are all doomed to eternal damnation in perdition's flames
BillsFanNC Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:40 PM, HomeskillitMoorman said: Just wondering…if Vivek becomes President in ‘24 or ‘28 and does incredible things and reforms the country and improves the lives of millions of people and unifies our country in one of its most politically divisive eras…would he still deserve to suffer excruciatingly and rot non-stop in Hell for eternity because he didn’t believe in Jesus as his savior according to a solid chunk of the Conservative Christian base? Expand You are OBSESSED with religion, mostly christians it seems. More than christian conservatives are in most cases. What gives?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) On 8/24/2023 at 2:36 PM, B-Man said: ‘The Elephant Not in the Room’: GOP Presidential Candidates Dance around Trump in First Primary Debate by Ryan Mills The eight Republican presidential hopefuls who participated in Wednesday night’s spirited, and at times unruly debate, went after one another over their ages and qualifications, and their positions on a federal abortion ban and on increasing aid to Ukraine. They debated whether America has a national identity crisis, whether they would authorize lethal force at the southern border, and whether climate change is a “hoax.” But the eight candidates were generally loath to delve too deep into one critical subject — the subject that Fox New moderator Bret Baier called the “elephant not in the room”— Donald Trump, the former president who is crushing them all https://www.nationalreview.com/news/the-elephant-not-in-the-room-gop-presidential-candidates-dance-around-trump-in-first-primary-debate/ . Expand Halellujah! On 8/24/2023 at 2:43 PM, The Frankish Reich said: an attempt to subtly call attention to "not one of us." Expand well, of course. "Us" being MAGA... Edited August 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever
JDHillFan Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 3:09 PM, The Frankish Reich said: This will not please the gods. The gods will descend on the Hypothetical One Bills Drive. Expect a Severe Weather Warning. Expand You seem especially billstime-y and redhawkish this morning. What was it that triggered you most? Tucker? References to God? The guy with the long last name?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) On 8/24/2023 at 2:33 PM, Doc said: I'm sure that when Vivek's parents arrived in Cincy they said "hey, we're Brahmins, we're elite! Give us everything!" Expand One of his parents was a geriatric psychiatric doctor and the other a lawyer, I think. They were/are elite in most conversations. On 8/24/2023 at 3:38 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: the liberal double standard always shows itself. It just takes a catalyst. the Democratic Party remains one of the most racist political parties in the history of the world. Expand my Indian friends pregnant girl friend (now wife) is white, if that matters......He was Sikh. Smaller sized but I wouldn't advise getting him angry Edited August 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 1:15 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Yeah, we have a delightful storied history in America with literacy and civics tests to qualify to vote. https://americanhistory.si.edu/democracy-exhibition/vote-voice/keeping-vote/state-rules-federal-rules/literacy-tests Expand I will first state I am not in favor of a national civics test to vote but to compare where we are as a society to those times is asinine. Everyone has a chance to go to school and learn now. My school is majority minorities and we perform at an elite level, because we value that education. 100 years ago these kids would not be allowed in the door. 1 1
B-Man Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Let's Talk About the GOP Debate and North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2023/08/24/lets-talk-about-the-gop-debate-and-north-dakota-governor-doug-burgum-n2162986 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) Vivek is elite. No doubt about it. How he'd do as president is a major question (worry). The part about the Soros fellowship is hilarious. From Wiki: Ramaswamy attended public schools through the eighth grade.[3][19] He then attended Cincinnati's St. Xavier High School, a Catholic school affiliated with the Jesuit order,[3][20] graduating in 2003.[21] He was class valedictorian and a nationally ranked junior tennis player.[3] In 2007, Ramaswamy graduated from Harvard College with a Bachelor of Arts, summa ***** laude, in biology, and was a member of Phi Beta Kappa.[22] At Harvard, he gained a reputation as a brash and confident libertarian.[23] He was a member of the Harvard Political Union,[1] becoming its president.[3] He told the Harvard Crimson that he considered himself a contrarian who loved to debate.[1] While in college, he performed Eminem covers and libertarian-themed rap music under the stage name and alter ego Da Vek,[3][24] and was an intern for the hedge fundAmaranth Advisors and the investment bank Goldman Sachs.[3] He wrote his senior thesis on the ethical questions raised by creating human-animal chimeras and earned a Bowdoin Prize.[22] In a 2023 interview, he also said that he was a member of the Jewish intellectual society Shabtai at Yale.[25] In 2011, Ramaswamy was awarded a post-graduate fellowship by the Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans.[26] In 2013, he earned a J.D.from Yale Law School.[22] At that time, Ramaswamy was already wealthy from his involvement in the finance, pharmaceutical, and biotech industries; he said in 2023 that he had a net worth of around $15 million before graduating from law school.[23] On 8/24/2023 at 4:18 PM, Orlando Tim said: I will first state I am not in favor of a national civics test to vote but to compare where we are as a society to those times is asinine. Everyone has a chance to go to school and learn now. My school is majority minorities and we perform at an elite level, because we value that education. 100 years ago these kids would not be allowed in the door. Expand Since everyone has that opportunity, why not do the civics test? Edited August 24, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever
SoCal Deek Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 4:08 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: One of his parents was a geriatric psychiatric doctor and the other a lawyer, I think. They were/are elite in most conversations. my Indian friends pregnant girl friend (now wife) is white, if that matters......He was Sikh. Smaller sized but I wouldn't advise getting him angry Expand The King of Pomposity speaks! Come on now….are you listening to yourself. Geeez 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 4:45 PM, SoCal Deek said: The King of Pomposity speaks! Come on now….are you listening to yourself. Geeez Expand You seem to deny a fairly rigid class structure in the US. It's a huge part of populism, resentment and anger. It's what the Richmond song is about. Pretending it doesn't exist doesn't help improve things. discussing the system in the context of the election is relevant and important.
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