Gregg Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 This was posted over at the Buffalo Range. The NFL Cut Down Day is Tuesday August 29th. Just a few days away. All teams have to cut from 90 players to 53. Approx 37 players per team will hit the street next Monday / Tuesday. About 1184 pink slips. Will Beane trade away a player this week, like he has done in the past? Here are a few examples: Aug 2019 traded LB Eli Harold for Ryan Bates Aug 2019 traded OL Russell Bodine to New England for a 6th round pick Sept 2018 Traded QB AJ McCarron to the Oakland Raiders for a 2019 fifth-round draft pick Sept 2018 Traded OT Marshall Newsome to the Panthers for a 7th round pick Aug 2021 Traded DE Darryl Johnson to the Panthers for a 6th round pick Aug 2022: Traded G Cody Ford to Arizona for a 2023 fifth-round pick Who might be someone the Bills would trade? An extra DL or DE? A defensive back? 2 4 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 Thanks for posting the past trades, very informative. I would imagine Beane is floating a few names to GMs and looking to add with a trade for one of his 6ths. For as much as he gets criticized by some fans, he is constantly doing his job. 3 3 Quote
Saxum Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, Gregg said: Aug 2021 Traded DE Darryl Johnson to the Panthers for a 6th round pick Even though I liked Darryl Johnson they traded him at right time. He played for three teams - Panthers, Seahawks and 49ers and on each team he got injured and put on IR. 4 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 Because of the new one day cutdown, gone are the days where you can get a team to bite on a likely cuts like Eli Harold, Marshall Newsome, Darry Johnson and Russell Bodine. I bet a lot of teams are not shopping for trades--they will be dumpster diving in the frenzy coming Tuesday. 2 Quote
MiltonWaddams Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Even though I liked Darryl Johnson they traded him at right time. He played for three teams - Panthers, Seahawks and 49ers and on each team he got injured and put on IR. Kingsley Jonathan fits the mold of what Bam was in those days. Promising but not a guy I expected to see starting ever. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 Guys that have less than 4 years and would hit the waivers are one's that team way down the list might be interested in. Let's say a guy like Cam Lewis. He has some worth and could get a late Day 3 pick. I'm not saying he should be cut, just saying. Beane has to weigh whether guys like this, if cut, will make it back on the PS. A trade vs a cut for a guy like Cam also saves another $225k in cap for Beane. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Guys that have less than 4 years and would hit the waivers are one's that team way down the list might be interested in. Let's say a guy like Cam Lewis. He has some worth and could get a late Day 3 pick. I'm not saying he should be cut, just saying. Beane has to weigh whether guys like this, if cut, will make it back on the PS. A trade vs a cut for a guy like Cam also saves another $225k in cap for Beane. For that amount saved, you keep a guy like Lewis. That's 1/1000th of the cap. Quote
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 I think we trade away a late pick for OT depth. We have an extra 6th rounder that we could bundle with a receiver or possibly Epenesa. 1 1 Quote
JohnnyK Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 Let's hope the Bills are trading a pick(s) for upgraded depth...MLB, and/or OT! Quote
ColoradoBills Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: For that amount saved, you keep a guy like Lewis. That's 1/1000th of the cap. If Siran Neal is depth at NCB there might not be roster spot for Cam. That is the point. Cam is on the bubble right now IMO. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: If Siran Neal is depth at NCB there might not be roster spot for Cam. That is the point. Cam is on the bubble right now IMO. Then every GM knows this--hence they will wait for Tuesday. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Then every GM knows this--hence they will wait for Tuesday. That is a simplistic way to look at the waiver wire nuances in the NFL, especially teams who are 20+ on the list. There will be trades at cutdown time. They have averaged 10-15 each year. Quote
eball Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Because of the new one day cutdown, gone are the days where you can get a team to bite on a likely cuts like Eli Harold, Marshall Newsome, Darry Johnson and Russell Bodine. I bet a lot of teams are not shopping for trades--they will be dumpster diving in the frenzy coming Tuesday. The benefit of a trade is not facing the prospect of a bidding war with another team. Now you might say "what war" when we're talking about players who are being cut, but every dollar counts at this time of year and if you can work a trade at a set salary without having to outbid another team it makes sense. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 49 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: That is a simplistic way to look at the waiver wire nuances in the NFL, especially teams who are 20+ on the list. There will be trades at cutdown time. They have averaged 10-15 each year. It has never been done like this before--one day, 1200 cuts. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: It has never been done like this before--one day, 1200 cuts. True. But in the past the initial cutdown was camp bodies that most GMs didn't care about acquiring. This new rule IMO was to keep those guys on the team to play a lot in the last totally meaningless preseason game protecting the depth from injuries. I guess we will see in a few days if it has changed anything. 1 Quote
Airseven Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 I think Beane knows he's in trouble at OT and MLB at the very least. Trading away a 4th/5th would not surprise me in the least. May be able to recoup a 6th/7th for Basham. I'm also curious what they think of Ford and Harris at this point. Could be surprise cuts/trades. Quote
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Then every GM knows this--hence they will wait for Tuesday. They don't wait if their team is too far down the waiver wire food chain and they have a need that other teams also have. This insures that they get their guy. 2 1 Quote
Ya Digg? Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: For that amount saved, you keep a guy like Lewis. That's 1/1000th of the cap. 6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Guys that have less than 4 years and would hit the waivers are one's that team way down the list might be interested in. Let's say a guy like Cam Lewis. He has some worth and could get a late Day 3 pick. I'm not saying he should be cut, just saying. Beane has to weigh whether guys like this, if cut, will make it back on the PS. A trade vs a cut for a guy like Cam also saves another $225k in cap for Beane. Trade him, cut him, whatever you have to do, but Cam gives me too much PTSD from last year 1 1 Quote
Gregg Posted August 24, 2023 Author Posted August 24, 2023 Not Bills related but we have a trade. Adam Schefter on X: "Trade: Isaiah Simmons is being traded from the Cardinals to the NY Giants for a seventh-round pick in 2024, per source." / X (twitter.com) Quote
Fleezoid Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 On the 29th Adam Schefter and Ian Rapoport's phones will melt from all the "signing" tweets. The competition will be fierce. 1 Quote
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