Colts grant Jonathan Taylor’s request to seek trade

[BullBuchanan]

On 8/27/2023 at 1:32 PM, buffblue said:

How many of these guys have been the difference makers in their team reaching the Super Bowl? Exactly zero.

 

It's not hard to figure out why. The only teams that foolishly waste big money on the position are the ones who lack a long term, franchise qb. Without one of those, you're not winning anything regardless of how good your running back room may be.

Todd Gurley was in 2018
The combination of Devonta Foreman and Tevin Colemen were in 2016
Marshawn lynch was in 2013 & 2014
Frank Gore & Ray Rice were in 2012


How much further do you want me to go back? In the last 20 years, we have been blessed with seeing most of the top 10 greatest QBs of all time, including the undisputed top 2 and likely top 3, many of them all competing for a Super Bowl simultaneously.  Since then, we've introduced Mahomes, who's already top 10 all time. It shouldn't be any surprise that SB winners have been largely QB driven since that time.

That doesn't mean that elite RBs don't help you get there and give you a better chance to win.
 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Todd Gurley was in 2018
The combination of Devonta Foreman and Tevin Colemen were in 2016
Marshawn lynch was in 2013 & 2014
Frank Gore & Ray Rice were in 2012


How much further do you want me to go back? In the last 20 years, we have been blessed with seeing most of the top 10 greatest QBs of all time, including the undisputed top 2 and likely top 3, many of them all competing for a Super Bowl simultaneously.  Since then, we've introduced Mahomes, who's already top 10 all time. It shouldn't be any surprise that SB winners have been largely QB driven since that time.

That doesn't mean that elite RBs don't help you get there and give you a better chance to win.
 

Elite RBs like Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman lmao

[BullBuchanan]

12 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Elite RBs like Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman lmao

Do you have the memory of a goldfish? You don't remember them being an extremely dangerous  1-2 combo?

They combined for 2100 yards and 16 touchdowns. They were effectively one powerhouse RB split as two players. Similar to Barber/Jacobs, Dunn/Alstott, etc. The Falcons heavily relied on them.

Edited August 29, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[FilthyBeast]

Rumors circulating online that Dolphins close to finalizing trade for Taylor.

 

If that happens, not only are the prohibitive favorites to win the division, but will likely challenge for a 17-0 season along with the Chiefs.

 

 

[FireChans]

50 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

Do you have the memory of a goldfish? You don't remember them being an extremely dangerous  1-2 combo?

They combined for 2100 yards and 16 touchdowns. They were effectively one powerhouse RB split as two players. Similar to Barber/Jacobs, Dunn/Alstott, etc. The Falcons heavily relied on them.

Yes, both elite HoF guys lol. 
 

or maybe they are proof that you don’t need elite players to have an elite rushing attack. 

[ngbills]

4 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Rumors circulating online that Dolphins close to finalizing trade for Taylor.

 

If that happens, not only are the prohibitive favorites to win the division, but will likely challenge for a 17-0 season along with the Chiefs.

 

 

No way. Now that Kingsley Jonathan has made the Bills roster are the smart money is on the Bills. 

[WyoAZBillfan]

6 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

Rumors circulating online that Dolphins close to finalizing trade for Taylor.

 

If that happens, not only are the prohibitive favorites to win the division, but will likely challenge for a 17-0 season along with the Chiefs.

 

 

They will have a close competition with the JETS to win the offseason!! Belly up Fins!

[Tipster19]

This couldn’t be for trading for Jonathan Taylor now could it? It’s just unbelievable how the teams in our division makes all kinds of big moves and we do little to nothing. What is going on with this garbage??!!!

[BillnutinHouston]

Breathe

[BullBuchanan]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Yes, both elite HoF guys lol. 
 

or maybe they are proof that you don’t need elite players to have an elite rushing attack. 

And Lynch, Gore, Gurley? I know you hate being proven wrong, but picking one example you don't like (that's still valid btw), doesn't discredit the argument.

[billsbackto81]

 

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

And Lynch, Gore, Gurley? I know you hate being proven wrong, but picking one example you don't like (that's still valid btw), doesn't discredit the argument.

You forgot Eric Dickerson and Paul Hornung.

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said:

You forgot Eric Dickerson and Paul Hornung.

sure add them to the list. They played in 2018 when Gurley did, right?

[FireChans]

9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

And Lynch, Gore, Gurley? I know you hate being proven wrong, but picking one example you don't like (that's still valid btw), doesn't discredit the argument.

Frank Gore didn’t win a Super Bowl. Neither did Gurley.

 

Do you wanna do a list of how many SB’s HoF QB’s won vs HoF RB’s?

[Rubes]

You'd think this was the start of free agency or something...

 

[mjt328]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

Rumors circulating online that Dolphins close to finalizing trade for Taylor.

 

If that happens, not only are the prohibitive favorites to win the division, but will likely challenge for a 17-0 season along with the Chiefs.

 

 

There are a couple ways to look at this.

 

Is trading for Jonathan Taylor a smart move for the Dolphins long-term, considering the draft compensation it will require AND the huge contract?  The answer is almost certainly no.

 

But will Taylor make the Dolphins a harder opponent for us in the short-term, making it much more difficult to win the AFC East, end up with homefield advantage, and ultimately reach our goal of winning the Super Bowl?  The answer is almost certainly yes.

 

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, Tipster19 said:

This couldn’t be for trading for Jonathan Taylor now could it? It’s just unbelievable how the teams in our division makes all kinds of big moves and we do little to nothing. What is going on with this garbage??!!!

 

And yet we won our division last year by more games than any other team in the NFL. And played one less game.  Remarkable isn't it?

[BullBuchanan]

10 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Frank Gore didn’t win a Super Bowl. Neither did Gurley.

 

Do you wanna do a list of how many SB’s HoF QB’s won vs HoF RB’s?

"Winning" a super bowl was not the challenge. Getting a team to the super bowl was. If you want to move the goalposts so that you can find a way to be right, go ahead but I'm not interested in that discussion.

 

Edited August 29, 2023 by BullBuchanan

[JJGauna]

We have big contracts to feed, the Dolphins are paying Tua peanuts this year compared to Buffalo and Josh. Take a lap.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

No trade