Dion Dawkins

[HIT BY SPIKES]

2 minutes ago, wppete said:

Dawkins needs to forget the cameras, media appearances, podcasts and focus on playing LT and protecting Josh Allen. Think the fame

us getting to his head. 

 I said the same last week but I was quickly homered.

[BarleyNY]

43 minutes ago, Chaos said:

PFF grades his as an average left tackle.  What else you got?

 

18 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

The PFF grade I saw was 76.5.   Maybe I am reading it wrong, who knows.  

 

This is worth having an honest discussion about. Last season PFF rated Dawkins at 73.5 overall. 80.0 pass pro and 62.3 run blocking. His overall grade places him at 24th among offensive tackles. His average salary places him 24th among offensive tackles. 

 

Dawkins PFF

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spotrac OT AAV

 

To date it seems as though his play matches his performance. There are 64 starting OTs in the league and he’s 24th. That’s a little above average and he’s a better pass blocker than run blocker, which is preferable to the other way around.

 

I don’t have any complaints about last year or the years prior, but it’s worth looking ahead. He is under contract this year and next. It was front loaded so he’s only due cash of $9.855M this season and $10.3M next. That’s a very good deal if you can get average or better play out of him.

 

The concerns about how out of shape Dawkins has come into TC can’t be ignored though. He’s 29 now so he’s signed through his 30 year old season. Getting back into shape will become more and more difficult if he continues to do that. IMO the smart move is to have him play out his deal but try to find his replacement in the draft next offseason. He can coexist with a rookie for a year. 

[QLBillsFan]

8 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Proove he's overeating.  On the other hand, it can affect stamina which can affect workouts and such.

Yikes long COVID symptoms would not allow DD to be playing football. He’s overweight and out of shape. 

[QLBillsFan]

6 hours ago, Einstein said:

Our offensive line is in rough shape for the future.

 

LT - Dawkins is turning 30 this upcoming year and looks like he doesn't have many seasons left.

C  - Is a walking concussion and I'm honestly shocked he is even still playing

RT - Just horrendous.

 

 

Dawkins at 30 should have 3-4 good years left. Many OT’s go well into the 30’s.. but he needs to take care of his body. Disappointing and surprising that with all  the Bills training, nutrition, and resources that DD isn’t more fit. I totally agree on C and RT. 
At what point does the lens focus on Kromer the OL whisperer?? 😂 

[DasNootz]

My suspicion is that he's a freak athlete that was always the "exception" and didn't need to train at his size.  Age 30 isn't 22, and he'll need to realize that if he wants to be in this career in 5 years he needs to change what he's always done.  

 

He appears to be an absolute great guy and teammate, but it's time that the team trainers take over.

Edited August 20, 2023 by DasNootz

[Einstein]

1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said:

Dawkins at 30 should have 3-4 good years left. 

 

Hard to imagine that when he has been playing poorly since he turned 28.

[Billever76]

9 hours ago, 97bills said:

Our entire oline needs upgraded , we’ve spent big money on defense, while our oline is a hope and prayer every year..When we drafted Allen we should’ve put a top tier oline in front of him. I guess we’re going by the colts play book , and we’re going to wait until it’s to late. All that money on defense, and Allen still has to run around for his life and score 35 points… big baller bean lol 

I think it's McDermott that runs everything!..Bean just goes shopping for McDermotts list .. McDermott runs this team fully and that's a problem 

[AuntieEm]

15 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

What are you taking about ? How would you have any knowledge of this? He would not playing if so. And the Bills are required to inform the league if he has an injury or illness. Due to HIPPA they can’t state the issue, just that he unavailable. 

 

  Yea Dawkins would be on PUP list until he was medically cleared.  If he lost some strength from his bout with civid all the more reason he should have worked on gradually conditioning his body to regain and even surpass his previous ability.  

 

 

[oldmanfan]

21 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

What are you taking about ? How would you have any knowledge of this? He would not playing if so. And the Bills are required to inform the league if he has an injury or illness. Due to HIPPA they can’t state the issue, just that he unavailable. 

Do me a favor.  Go to the library.  Find a dictionary.  Look up the word wonder.

16 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Yikes long COVID symptoms would not allow DD to be playing football. He’s overweight and out of shape. 

They don’t necessarily keep him from playing.  He is not actively infected.  But the long term sequel as can go on for a while and affect things like the ability to condition as well as one would like.

[QLBillsFan]

10 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Hard to imagine that when he has been playing poorly since he turned 28.

I’m not saying he’s going to. But the position has plenty of guys playing well into that age.I agree he has not been great in a while.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

10 hours ago, Toledo Bill said:

.Dawkins is such a poor reflection on our coaching staff. Ok, I know he has a big contract and would be hard to move on from but it is ridiculous to have this guy show up every year more out of shape.

He shows no leadership skills and comes across as a fat clown.

He holds a premier position and has turned into, at best an average left tackle.

I really am disappointed that something can’t be done about this. Maybe behind the scenes McD is all over him but I doubt it.

I really feel that his attitude and conditioning has negatively affected the entire team.

 

I'm not really sure what this post even means, they don't call OL "big uglies" because they're chisled Aaron Donalds, He's overweight but still athletic, he's an above average LT, nothing more, nothing less imo. So you're suggesting to trade him for a draft picks and pick up a street FA whose worse and needs time to gel and learn our system? I'm not understanding this post at all.

[QLBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Do me a favor.  Go to the library.  Find a dictionary.  Look up the word wonder.

They don’t necessarily keep him from playing.  He is not actively infected.  But the long term sequel as can go on for a while and affect things like the ability to condition as well as one would like.

No need to get all  defensive. This is a forum and I happen to be questioning your thoughts.
I am aware of wonder. I just wonder if you’re obsessive with long COVID 😂

[Augie]

31 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

What are you taking about ? How would you have any knowledge of this? He would not playing if so. And the Bills are required to inform the league if he has an injury or illness. Due to HIPPA they can’t state the issue, just that he unavailable. 

 

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[BillsFan2313]

7 hours ago, Shortchaz said:

Team full of these types. Be cool to mix in a couple straight up murderers here and there. 
 

I wonder if some litmus test for playing here is if you intimidate the coach with your personality. 

 

Interesting take..

Edited August 20, 2023 by BillsFan2313

[HIT BY SPIKES]

26 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Dawkins at 30 should have 3-4 good years left. Many OT’s go well into the 30’s.. but he needs to take care of his body. Disappointing and surprising that with all  the Bills training, nutrition, and resources that DD isn’t more fit. I totally agree on C and RT. 
At what point does the lens focus on Kromer the OL whisperer?? 😂 

 

If you are the Man Around Town bringing THE BIG SHOW, how can you possibly have more time for the Training & Weight Room?

 

Why are you so insensitive to DD's need to grow his social game during his limited years as a NFL player?

[Toledo Bill]

23 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

I'm not really sure what this post even means, they don't call OL "big uglies" because they're chisled Aaron Donalds, He's overweight but still athletic, he's an above average LT, nothing more, nothing less imo. So you're suggesting to trade him for a draft picks and pick up a street FA whose worse and needs time to gel and learn our system? I'm not understanding this post at all.

He is not above average and is going to get Josh killed.

Where did I suggest they trade him for draft picks and pick up street free agents?? But as long as you mention it…

[oldmanfan]

32 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

No need to get all  defensive. This is a forum and I happen to be questioning your thoughts.
I am aware of wonder. I just wonder if you’re obsessive with long COVID 😂

Obsessive?  No.  Is it a real thing?  Absolutely.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

13 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

He is not above average and is going to get Josh killed.

Where did I suggest they trade him for draft picks and pick up street free agents?? But as long as you mention it…

 

 "I know he has a big contract and would be hard to move on from" That's what you wrote. So it suggests you're looking to move on from him, who are we going to start there in his place. I belive he's above average, you don't and that's fine so who are we replacing him with. I don't see anyone out there who would be an upgrade.

Edited August 20, 2023 by BuffaloBillsGospel2014

[QLBillsFan]

12 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Obsessive?  No.  Is it a real thing?  Absolutely.

Correct it’s a real thing. To suggest that DD has it is a stretch.. 

[Toledo Bill]

3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

 "I know he has a big contract and would be hard to move on from" That's what you wrote. So it suggests you're looking to move on from him, who are we going to start there in his place. I belive he's above average, you don't and that's fine so who are we replacing him with. I don't see anyone out there who would be an upgrade.

I guess I was thinking of moving on from him in the future (possibly next year). I realize that any move this year, unless we could work a trade with him going for another teams tackle would not result in our getting a quality player. 
I am just so disappointed in him I would welcome an opportunity for improvement ( but don’t have a solution).