Do you think that we will ever be so advanced that we create eternal life?

[Doc]

7 hours ago, Mr Info said:

Aside from ‘printing’ organs, there are significant advances underway in Xenotransplantation (with gene editing to remove immunosuppressives from the treatment) and bioartificial (again, not requiring immunosuppressives) organs.

 

Yup, a pig kidney was transplanted into a brain dead man and it's still functioning over a month later.

[LeGOATski]

We're not far at all. The Earth's going to fall into another ice age soon, though.

[May Day 10]

Its tough to say.  I don't think it would be eternal/infinite... but maybe could extend our consciousness well into triple digits.  

 

The problem is, are we going to damage the earth/each other, will there be a doomsday virus, etc?  Maybe?  Maybe not?

 

Also, can/would humans handle the idea of doubling/tripling/quadrupling our lifespans?  Will it be a perk sold only to the extreme wealthiest families in the world?  If it is more widely available, would we have the guardrails to control the population levels?  

[Augie]

A little light reading from my high school days. 

 

https://www.gradesaver.com/kurt-vonnegut-short-stories/study-guide/summary-tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow

[Royale with Cheese]

13 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Does it change my retirement age from 57? 

 

That's actually a good question.  If it's not eternal life but we can extend the lifespan by 200 years...are you going to be required to work more or are robots going to be running the show?

2 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Its tough to say.  I don't think it would be eternal/infinite... but maybe could extend our consciousness well into triple digits.  

 

The problem is, are we going to damage the earth/each other, will there be a doomsday virus, etc?  Maybe?  Maybe not?

 

Also, can/would humans handle the idea of doubling/tripling/quadrupling our lifespans?  Will it be a perk sold only to the extreme wealthiest families in the world?  If it is more widely available, would we have the guardrails to control the population levels?  

 

Another reason why I picked so far in advance.

 

Are we comfortably living on Moon by then?  A space shuttle is like a ferry today...gets people back and forth in 15 minutes.

 

I don't think we could handle the quadrupling of lifespans on one planet.  We don't have the resources to support...or maybe we create the resources by then.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Royale with Cheese

[dpberr]

Likely be able to do it, but few would want it.  An "indefinite" life would lack meaning and purpose.   

 

You also don't want to be in the position where you outlive everyone you know several times over, especially your own kids and even your grandkids.

 

Concepts like retirement, kids and grandkids would also be irrelevant.   

 

I think it'd be miserable to live through so many periods of time.  I don't think someone who was 40 in 1950 would really enjoy today's culture.  

[Augie]

How is AI going to affect our lifespans. It’s already affecting our lifestyles. Things will start moving even FASTER!

 

On a similar note, my iPad will select certain topics or time frames and run a slide show for me. It could be sunsets, summer trips in the mountains, pets, etc. It just ran a series of photos (with music, of course) of our trip to NYC with our grandson last month. It probably played 10% of the photos I took, and I swear it was the best 10%. Those were the photos I would have chosen. It picked the ones with a great smile or the best angle of the WTC, etc. There are some I should delete, but they were left out. How do it know???   🤷‍♂️

[Fleezoid]

On 8/20/2023 at 11:18 AM, Wacka said:

And monkeys may fly out of my butt.

 

Be careful.....

 

 

[LeGOATski]

3 hours ago, Augie said:

How is AI going to affect our lifespans. It’s already affecting our lifestyles. Things will start moving even FASTER!

 

On a similar note, my iPad will select certain topics or time frames and run a slide show for me. It could be sunsets, summer trips in the mountains, pets, etc. It just ran a series of photos (with music, of course) of our trip to NYC with our grandson last month. It probably played 10% of the photos I took, and I swear it was the best 10%. Those were the photos I would have chosen. It picked the ones with a great smile or the best angle of the WTC, etc. There are some I should delete, but they were left out. How do it know???   🤷‍♂️

Yep, these are the types of things AI should be used for.

 

It's arguable that, at the rate we're going, AI could be our end. Bring our collective life spans to zero.

[LeGOATski]

7 hours ago, dpberr said:

I think it'd be miserable to live through so many periods of time.  I don't think someone who was 40 in 1950 would really enjoy today's culture.  

Consider what AI and tech do to bridge the gap between generations. The further we go, the more the previous generation is in tune with the new. Now you have middle aged people playing the same video games and using the same tech as their kids, whereas in the past the older generation did not embrace it.

 

Or look at music apps, for instance. An older person used to just stay stuck in their old genre, listening to the same records or the same radio station. But now they have an easily accessible app like Spotify with an algorithm that suggests new music they'll like, which they otherwise would've never heard of.

 

When it comes to entertainment, hobbies, chores, etc, the generational variance is getting smaller.

9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

That's actually a good question.  If it's not eternal life but we can extend the lifespan by 200 years...are you going to be required to work more or are robots going to be running the show?

 

Another reason why I picked so far in advance.

 

Are we comfortably living on Moon by then?  A space shuttle is like a ferry today...gets people back and forth in 15 minutes.

 

I don't think we could handle the quadrupling of lifespans on one planet.  We don't have the resources to support...or maybe we create the resources by then.

50,000 years we'll have definitely colonized another planet or have a significant portion of the population living in space (if we're not extinct). It's a necessity. 

 

Things can be done to resolve the resource shortages on this planet, but not the overcrowding.

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Think about, what we worldly know, about eternal life.  Over the course of 'eternity', our Earth, and all the attempts we try to make Mars a new home, are just ego-hopehull-bull####. 
 

There's zero probability humanity can turn Mars into a more hospitable planet than Earth- it's just stupid people dreaming about things, really. 
 

god bless us one and all. 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

In another answer to that, have you found a way to be fascinated by your own life?  

[Royale with Cheese]

3 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Think about, what we worldly know, about eternal life.  Over the course of 'eternity', our Earth, and all the attempts we try to make Mars a new home, are just ego-hopehull-bull####. 
 

There's zero probability humanity can turn Mars into a more hospitable planet than Earth- it's just stupid people dreaming about things, really. 
 

god bless us one and all. 

When you woke up this morning, did someone kick you right in the balls or something?

 

 

[Augie]

9 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Think about, what we worldly know, about eternal life.  Over the course of 'eternity', our Earth, and all the attempts we try to make Mars a new home, are just ego-hopehull-bull####. 
 

There's zero probability humanity can turn Mars into a more hospitable planet than Earth- it's just stupid people dreaming about things, really. 
 

god bless us one and all. 

 

Just 100 years ago the automobile was starting to becoming popular in this country. Now we are driving remote control science labs around on Mars. Just 120 years ago the Wright brothers first took flight. It wasn’t too long after that that men walked on the moon.  School kids walk around with cell phones that hold much of the knowledge of mankind. I could not have imagined that when I was their age. 

 

What might we be capable of in another 100 years? In 1,000 years? I would not be so quick to rule out what might be possible. 

[dpberr]

21 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Consider what AI and tech do to bridge the gap between generations. The further we go, the more the previous generation is in tune with the new. Now you have middle aged people playing the same video games and using the same tech as their kids, whereas in the past the older generation did not embrace it.

 

Agreed, but that's all voluntary exposure to the culture of the day. If you're living forever, you're going to live through the good and the bad.

 

If someone told me in 1990 about 2000-present, I'd probably say "eh, I'll pass on renewing that eternal life subscription."  

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, dpberr said:

 

Agreed, but that's all voluntary exposure to the culture of the day. If you're living forever, you're going to live through the good and the bad.

 

If someone told me in 1990 about 2000-present, I'd probably say "eh, I'll pass on renewing that eternal life subscription."  

 

Tom Hanks and the mouse in The Green Mile didn’t see it as a great blessing, but he carried on.  I guess that’s what we do, until we can’t. 

[US Egg]

Wonder how many would settle for eternal hair?

[PastaJoe]

[Augie]

37 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

Wonder how many would settle for eternal hair?

 

Do you mean in your nose and your ears? I think I got that covered. And the eyebrows seem to have a life of their own! 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

No.