Royale with Cheese Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 So lets say, I don’t know, 50,000 thousand years from now. We are possibly so advanced that we can create organs in labs and transfer your DNA to your new brain. Kinda like changing out a car battery and reprogramming your radio. Any failing organ can just be replaced…including skin. Is it possible? Quote
Bill from NYC Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: So lets say, I don’t know, 50,000 thousand years from now. We are possibly so advanced that we can create organs in labs and transfer your DNA to your new brain. Kinda like changing out a car battery and reprogramming your radio. Any failing organ can just be replaced…including skin. Is it possible? I don't know but I vaguely remember the family of the deceased Ted Williams thinking this, or so it seems. In fact, a TSW poster once dedicated his screen name to this very phenom. Edited August 20, 2023 by Bill from NYC Quote
muppy Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: So lets say, I don’t know, 50,000 thousand years from now. We are possibly so advanced that we can create organs in labs and transfer your DNA to your new brain. Kinda like changing out a car battery and reprogramming your radio. Any failing organ can just be replaced…including skin. Is it possible? hmm meh I give it a maybe. It would be an amazing feat. But given the parameters you have set I guess anythings' possible. Would I want to live forever on the other hand is questionable Quote
billsfanmiamioh Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 We’ll be extinct before we even come close to that point. Guessing it will be “self inflicted” too. 1 2 Quote
B-Man Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 We can already receive Eternal Life. . 4 5 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 Eternal is not the same as an infinite amount of time. Eternity is not time. If Eternity has genuine meaning, it explodes the antinomies that end in apparent contradiction for finite minds and the conditions of contingent, mortal being. Certainly, it is not something that can ever be approached or mastered by technology or any other action available to either a single being or an aggregate of all the beings that start from a condition of need and lack. Either there is a plenitude that is Pure Act from the Origin that is able to gift "eternal life" or it is a surd concept with only the emotive suggestion of meaning. Quote
4merper4mer Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 Infinite is a long time. The universe is not infinite as near as we can tell so I’ll go with no. If we’re taking “unimaginably long” rather than infinite I’ll make a gues. It seems to me that there are three possibilities: 1. “Cure” the aging process 2. Master replacing each and every one of the billions of moving parts that could cause moving toward death. 3. Find a way to transfer consciousness to synthetic devices. Items 1 and 3 seem far more likely/practical to me than item 2. Does either really fulfill the requirement though? A person who doesn’t age could still get hit by a bus. A synthetic device could still be subject to the need for energy. Overall I’ll go with this not being achieved but won’t call it impossible. Quote
Augie Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Wacka said: And monkeys may fly out of my butt. You might want to see somebody about that if it happens. My mother is 95, and unless they can improve the quality of life, I have no interest in lasting that long. BUT, we are growing our knowledge and capabilities at a rate that is almost alarming. Things keep advancing at an accelerating rate. I can’t even imagine what my grandkids will see, much less 50,000 years from now. 1 Quote
Wacka Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 My mom was 95 when she passed two years ago.Was in relativelygood she until about 5 years before she died. Nature always wins. Gravity and wear and tear takes its tolll. The DNA replication proteins have a set error rte and although the proofreading enzymes (which have their own error rate) the mutations buildup as one ages. Quote
Success Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 Around 80-85 years is just fine w/ me. Especially if we never win a SB. 1 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 Look to the universe, it's already been created. Quote
boater Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 I'm willing to live to the point when I wear Depends. Once that happens.. I will lose interest. 2 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted August 20, 2023 Author Posted August 20, 2023 55 minutes ago, Wacka said: My mom was 95 when she passed two years ago.Was in relativelygood she until about 5 years before she died. Nature always wins. Gravity and wear and tear takes its tolll. The DNA replication proteins have a set error rte and although the proofreading enzymes (which have their own error rate) the mutations buildup as one ages. Good point. That’s why I said 50,000 years from now and not like 100 years from now. With how fast technology is growing, I don’t know if anything is impossible that far ahead. Just imagine that your great grandkids several thousands of years from now will be able to see who you were. Every photo and video will be saved somewhere. Quote
Bob Jones Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Good point. That’s why I said 50,000 years from now and not like 100 years from now. With how fast technology is growing, I don’t know if anything is impossible that far ahead. Just imagine that your great grandkids several thousands of years from now will be able to see who you were. Every photo and video will be saved somewhere. Sadly, more and more people are not even having kids. I have two daughters, both in their 30s, and it looks like neither of them is going to have children. Family “lineage” is dying out for a lot of families. Regarding the OPs question: Yes, I think so…and it won’t take 50,000 years. Zager and Evans called it in the 60s. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted August 20, 2023 Author Posted August 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Sadly, more and more people are not even having kids. I have two daughters, both in their 30s, and it looks like neither of them is going to have children. Family “lineage” is dying out for a lot of families. Regarding the OPs question: Yes, I think so…and it won’t take 50,000 years. Zager and Evans called it in the 60s. If we can get to this point well before 50,000 years…just imagine what 50,000 years will look like. Bringing back the previous dead? Quote
UConn James Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 You do know they’re printing organs in labs *now*, right? It’s going to take time before it’s a routine thing to replace a heart but surely not 50K years. Maybe 100, and that’s with massive-profit insurance companies & the slowness of public health guideline changes blocking the way. Quote
Augie Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 5 hours ago, billsfanmiamioh said: We’ll be extinct before we even come close to that point. Guessing it will be “self inflicted” too. In the movie Contact that was to be Jody Foster’s question to the aliens. Something like “How did you do it? How did you survive your technological adolescence?” That’s a darn good question! Quote
Mr Info Posted August 20, 2023 Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, UConn James said: You do know they’re printing organs in labs *now*, right?… Aside from ‘printing’ organs, there are significant advances underway in Xenotransplantation (with gene editing to remove immunosuppressives from the treatment) and bioartificial (again, not requiring immunosuppressives) organs. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 Does it change my retirement age from 57? Quote
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