Well that was an absolute crap fest - PostGame thread

[Einstein]

15 minutes ago, Chuck Schick said:

A bit revisionist.. I believe Mahomes’ comment was actually something like “the Bills are maybe a better matchup”, which could mean a bunch of things. Strengths and weaknesses that might seemingly fit better, etc. 

 

Here is the exact quote. You can semantics it all you want but it is pretty clear:

 

“I think the Bengals are better, but I think with all those injuries on the o-line that the Bills have a chance” - Pat Mahomes

 

He felt the Bills needed a bunch of o-line injuries to the Bengals to simply have a CHANCE. Mahomes, at best, thought the Bills were third in the conference. Chiefs > Bengals > Bills.

 

He also did say the Chiefs match up better against the Bills. Which is a nice way to say the Bills just weren’t that doggone good at the time.

12 minutes ago, buffalonian said:

Not sure what Mahomes actually said, but “the Bills just aren’t that good” would be ridiculous. They were 13-3 during the regular season and beat Kansas City on the road. 

 

I was paraphrasing. It was the gist.

 

The Bills were 13-3 but we were a very flawed 13-3. The 11-6 Bills from the previous year would have wipped that 13-3 Bills ass.

Edited August 20, 2023 by Einstein

[mrags]

48 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

Dion has sucked for a long time now. Brown has just masked it because he’s even worse. But Dawkins sucks too. We don’t have 1 good tackle. Bills will never win a SB until they get serious about building a real OL. 

I’ve said it for years. Dawkins is a fat, sloppy, slob. Not in a good way. You look at good OTs in the league and that are mountains. Huge and muscular and stout. Dawkins is like an overfilled water balloon about to burst. He’s just not good. It’s a real problem and one of these days people will realize it. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

It's preseason FFS.  Orioles won tonight!

[Old Coot]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

Poyer looks like he has lost a step. He looks slow

maybe but you can't see that from the 62 yd TD run. Poyer is pursuing laterally and he hesitates for a moment and that enables the RB to get by him on the outside. If he doesn't hesitate and contunues laterally the RB cuts back and takes it to the house behind Poyer.

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Here is the exact quote. You can semantics it all you want but it is pretty clear:

 

“I think the Bengals are better, but I think with all those injuries on the o-line that the Bills have a chance” - Pat Mahomes

 

Mahomes, at best, thought the Bills were third in the conference. Chiefs > Bengals > Bills.

 

He also did say the Chiefs match up better against the Bills. Which is a nice way to say the Bills just weren’t that doggone good at the time.

Pretty sure Mahomes has had less success vs Bengals Defense than the Bills. Of course saying the Bengals are better is the smart answer. Does it matter if he thinks the Bills are “ only” third best in the AFC ? No, it actually doesn’t mean squat in a game. 

[Old Coot]

They miss Edmunds. There was a lot of gree grass over the middle of the field.

[first_and_ten]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

- Dion Dawkins was terrible

- Spencer Brown was also terrible

- Teams are going to exploit the middle without Edmunds

- Ed Oliver was pushed around 

- Poyer looks like he has lost a step. He looks slow

- I’m concerned about Cook in pass-pro. It was only one play but he got stood straight up and the only thing that saved him was the linemen next to him

 

- On the positive side of things, Kincaid is great at using leverage. 

- Torrence was alright 

- Shorter is going to make the roster

 

 I never worry about preseason performances but this game has really put that to the test. The Bills were just brutally bad. Refs were awful too, not to say that is why they lost, but they were bad

2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

No I wasn’t ….will venting here help?

 

Actually some may find that venting is cathartic.

[Einstein]

4 minutes ago, Old Coot said:

maybe but you can't see that from the 62 yd TD run. Poyer is pursuing laterally and he hesitates for a moment and that enables the RB to get by him on the outside. If he doesn't hesitate and contunues laterally the RB cuts back and takes it to the house behind Poyer.

I get what you’re saying, but 2020 Poyer makes that tackle.

 

This is called getting burned.

 

 

[The Helmet of]

16 minutes ago, 947 said:

Dorsey's play calling with the starters was still idiotic. Our OTs are getting throttled by Pitt's edge rushers, and we're still featuring long-developing 20 yard routes with double moves. To the point that Josh had to move around the pocket & evade rushers while waiting for receivers to complete a route.

 

This exactly. Dorsey does not adjust. He just does what he wants to do. Passing and shotgun 85% of the time unless they go up by four scores.

 

This was exactly like the Bengals game. Dominated on both sides of the ball, sloppy penalties, just getting pushed around like rag dolls.

 

It looked like men vs boys out there.  Obviously men are being coached by Coach Tomlin.

 

Fire the whole coaching staff and bring in an elite coach like Sean Payton. With this talent Bills should have multiple super bowls. McDermott is a falling star.

[Nostradumbass]

Poyer looked like he just didn't care enough to try and take the right angle and tackle him, and he problem shouldn't

 

On the second touchdown Milano and Tre looked like they were participating in a walk through

 

I'm not concerned at all

[Boatdrinks]

23 minutes ago, 947 said:

Dorsey's play calling with the starters was still idiotic. Our OTs are getting throttled by Pitt's edge rushers, and we're still featuring long-developing 20 yard routes with double moves. To the point that Josh had to move around the pocket & evade rushers while waiting for receivers to complete a route.

Didn’t like the performance at all, but are we really complaining about play calling in a preseason contest ? It’s vanilla Vs vanilla and I don’t want to see anything close to what they might do on Offense in the regular season. I want to see the OL win 1 on 1 matchups , WRs catch the ball crisply and cleanly and very few penalties on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately that’s not what we saw tonight. A preseason game is not about adjustments etc. 

[Airseven]

9 minutes ago, Einstein said:

I get what you’re saying, but 2020 Poyer makes that tackle.

 

This is called getting burned.

 

 

There’s a reason he generated little interest in free agency and circled back to this regime’s de$ire for familiarity. 

[BeavercreekBillsFan]

21 minutes ago, mrags said:

I’ve said it for years. Dawkins is a fat, sloppy, slob. Not in a good way. You look at good OTs in the league and that are mountains. Huge and muscular and stout. Dawkins is like an overfilled water balloon about to burst. He’s just not good. It’s a real problem and one of these days people will realize it. 

100%. We have our franchise qb FINALLY. And we give him Dawkins and brown. He deserves better. We deserve better. 
 

people overlook Dawkins poor play because he loves bills mafia and the “shnow “ comments but he’s a bum. Him and brown are going to get josh killed again and they completely limit what this team could be. 

[mrags]

3 minutes ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

100%. We have our franchise qb FINALLY. And we give him Dawkins and brown. He deserves better. We deserve better. 
 

people overlook Dawkins poor play because he loves bills mafia and the “shnow “ comments but he’s a bum. Him and brown are going to get josh killed again and they completely limit what this team could be. 

People are enamored with him and his personality. Maybe if he spent as much time worrying about his play and physical attributes he wouldn’t be that bad. 
 

I said it in one of the posts earlier during mini camp after seeing a pic of him. People jumped down my throat because it was “just mini camp”. Well, now it’s almost the regular season and he’s still as fat and doughy as he was then. Which is fatter and doughier than last year. Which was fatter and doughier than the year before that, etc, etc. 

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Glad we passed on Dewand Jones.

 

Bills might have to play jumbo set all the time.

 

No idea if there is a rule against that, but RT is laughably bad.

 

Picking through cuts to find a RT might have to be the route the Bills take honestly. 

Cool....6 straight years of settling for a 25th ranked OL...

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

Trivia question for you.. who has been in the AFC Championship game the last 2 years?  Yup that’s right the Bengals and Chiefs.. right now everyone outside of Buffalo sees the Bills as the 3rd best team, maybe the 4th since so many love the dang Jets now..  I think it’s funny you point to stats when players just look at it as “these two teams are the best in the league”. 

And you don’t  think that a third best team is not a measuring stick

 

 

I guarantee you that whenever your ***** team plays us how well they do against us will be considered a measuring stick

[1ManRaid]

2 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

I mean, you can’t just take away their TDs. Would the Steelers have scored a 3rd if their starters remained in the game? Who knows, but they were clearly winning. You call it two fluke plays, I call it superior execution.

Oh yeah, not arguing against Dawkins and Brown, both were terrible. But there was one play in particular on the opening drive, the 3rd down I believe, where he did have time and decided to roll out to his right anyway, which brought the rush in his face and took away half the field. The result was a throw that landed nowhere really.

 

You call under 2 yards per rush on 30+ carries outside of that one long TD "superior execution"?  You call 144 total pass yards even including that 25 yard TD superior execution?

 

I call that proof of a 1st quarter fluke.

Edited August 20, 2023 by 1ManRaid

[Skyline Chili]

53 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:

 

This exactly. Dorsey does not adjust. He just does what he wants to do. Passing and shotgun 85% of the time unless they go up by four scores.

 

This was exactly like the Bengals game. Dominated on both sides of the ball, sloppy penalties, just getting pushed around like rag dolls.

 

It looked like men vs boys out there.  Obviously men are being coached by Coach Tomlin.

 

Fire the whole coaching staff and bring in an elite coach like Sean Payton. With this talent Bills should have multiple super bowls. McDermott is a falling star.

Curious to see how Payton does this year...

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Were you… happy… with tonight’s performance?

Its preseason. Who cares? 

[Norcalbillsfan]

3 hours ago, Roundybout said:

I feel sad but then I see Kincaid’s highlights and I feel better 

I've been really good about keeping  expectations low to medium for Kincaid, but after today..  I might be all aboard the hype train.

There's always those athletes that just blow my mind on how they get open and make it look easy. (Not comparing) but kelce has always been that guy to me, he makes one cut and he's magically wide open and I'm screaming at my tv wondering how the hell hes still getting open. Tonight I felt like Kincaid did that, his leverage on defenders was impressive and they seemed to not have an answer for him. Can't wait for week 1.