Beast Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) One picked at 148 overall and the other picked at 150 overall the following year. Please tell me why the guy drafted 2 picks before the year prior is so much more valuable to the team because I just don’t see it. in fact, I see 150 and a former 2nd rounder being more valuable to this team. Edited August 20, 2023 by Beast 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I’m starting to suspect you aren’t a fan of Shakir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Andy! Andy! Andy! 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Shakir is the disflavor of the month. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I’m starting to suspect you aren’t a fan of Shakir No, I’m just being honest. What’s the deal with all the love for Shakir? What makes him better than Shorter or Isabella? I just don’t see the greatness in Shakir that others are claiming. He seems like a lackadaisical player to me. Makes a great play or two and then drops a pass and then let’s a smaller DB shove his ass out of bounds that leads to an INT. To me he’s JAG. Edited August 20, 2023 by Beast 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Beast said: No, I’m just being honest. What’s the deal with all the love for Shakir? What makes him better than Shorter or Isabella? I just don’t see the greatness in Shakir that others are claiming. He seems like a lackadaisical player to me. Makes a great play or two and then drops a pass and then let’s a smaller DB shove his ass out of bounds that leads to an INT. To me he’s JAG. I don’t think I’m seeing the same “love” for him as you are… I think more than a few are disappointed with him following expectations 12 months ago… Im happy not to have a dog in this fight to be honest… compared to some other issues I have….I just hope whatever way they go it works out for the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Baffling how people are this down on Shakir. He's flashed enough to make the bottom of the roster. Am I high on him? Not particularly, but it's a stretch to think there's a receiver below him who has shown enough to not just make the roster in addition to Shakir, but to supplant him entirely. I think we keep 6 WRs, and Isabella makes it over shorter. Diggs Davis Harty Sherfield Shakir are safe. Edited August 20, 2023 by NickelCity 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, NickelCity said: Baffling how people are this down on Shakir. He's flashed enough to make the bottom of the roster you weirdos. I think we keep 6 WRs, and Isabella makes it over shorter. Diggs Davis Harty Sherfield Shakir are safe. I mean I remember we all liked his potential and camp reports last year and he flashed in the preseason games last year. Is he still flashing that much in the games this year? Like what'd he do today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Shakir’s hype is due to the belief that we got a “steal” in the draft. Deep WR draft and a guy who projected as a RD3 pick, dropped to RD5. It was lauded universally as a home run of a pick. Analysts saying they can’t believe the league let Shakir drop to Josh Allen. Reality is he’s … ok. He’s an intriguing player, but is his upside really that high? WR3 caliber player most likely… maybeeee WR2 is he truly hits his stride. He’s also undersized, small arms and is inconsistent with drops. He shouldn’t be a roster lock imo.. but we also can’t be flippant about quality players on cheap multi-year contracts. 6 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I don’t see a reason to keep either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Just now, Warcodered said: I mean I remember we all liked his potential and camp reports last year and he flashed in the preseason games last year. Is he still flashing that much in the games this year? Like what'd he do today? I admit I was not thinking about today's game. I was thinking a body of work. Am I super high on him? No, but I think he's done enough to be seen as firmly included on the bottom of the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 20, 2023 Author Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, NickelCity said: Baffling how people are this down on Shakir. He's flashed enough to make the bottom of the roster you weirdos. I think we keep 6 WRs, and Isabella makes it over shorter. Diggs Davis Harty Sherfield Shakir are safe. Isabella very well make it over Shorter. But why would Shakir make it over Shorter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 The odds are decent that both Shakir and Shorter will make the team. Since they are different types of receivers, I suspect playing time might be more dependent on situations as opposed to one being clearly better than the other. Interestingly, one of the pluses with Shorter coming out of college was his run after the catch ability. Tonight, he showed none of that, but that might have been more on the QB than on Shorter. If you're digging the pass out of the turf, your not going to get yards after the catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Beast said: Isabella very well make it over Shorter. But why would Shakir make it over Shorter? What has Shorter done to supplant Shakir? I like his reported work ethic but I haven't heard or seen many flashes. Struggled with separation in the (too few) amount of snaps I've been able to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 38 minutes ago, Beast said: One picked at 148 overall and the other picked at 150 overall the following year. Please tell me why the guy drafted 2 picks before the year prior is so much more valuable to the team because I just don’t see it. in fact, I see 150 and a former 2nd rounder being more valuable to this team. Half agree. Isabella should stay, but Shorter has almost zero chance of ever becoming a contributor imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, Beast said: No, I’m just being honest. What’s the deal with all the love for Shakir? What makes him better than Shorter or Isabella? I just don’t see the greatness in Shakir that others are claiming. He seems like a lackadaisical player to me. Makes a great play or two and then drops a pass and then let’s a smaller DB shove his ass out of bounds that leads to an INT. To me he’s JAG. He made these plays last season with minimal reps as a Rookie that they spent a high 5th on and another pick to trade up and grab him. That's what makes him safe. Shorter and Isabella will probably be here as well. We kept 7 WR's to start last season after the Pre-Season and I'd expect the same here. But as I said, the bottom line is the team values him, his growth, and the investment he made. Even with the bad drop in the last game, he made two tough catches before that happened. A guy running with the 1's and 2's exclusively isn't all of a sudden going to be cut because of a play or two in the Pre-Season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Beast said: One picked at 148 overall and the other picked at 150 overall the following year. Please tell me why the guy drafted 2 picks before the year prior is so much more valuable to the team because I just don’t see it. in fact, I see 150 and a former 2nd rounder being more valuable to this team. Shakir can play inside/outside and be a return man. Shorter might make the team too. Edited August 20, 2023 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Shorter looked good today. He is gaining confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 The fact is some WR take time to become great. He is most likely a JAG but he is a low paid JAG and he most likely will get better this year, so I definitely keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, NickelCity said: Baffling how people are this down on Shakir. He's flashed enough to make the bottom of the roster. Am I high on him? Not particularly, but it's a stretch to think there's a receiver below him who has shown enough to not just make the roster in addition to Shakir, but to supplant him entirely. I think we keep 6 WRs, and Isabella makes it over shorter. Diggs Davis Harty Sherfield Shakir are safe. I think Isabella makes it too, but over either Shakir or Harty A lot of what they signed Harty for can be done by Isabella Edited August 20, 2023 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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