Bills linked to Jason Peters

[Freddie's Dead]

We need a designated punt blocker.

12 minutes ago, benderbender said:

Fitz left to be another team's backup for less money and the homefires burned for him for a decade.

 

Fitz didn't leave, they ran him out of town on a rail.

[DJB]

23 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Didn't he piss on the organization and city after he left in FA? 

Time heals all wounds 

[PonyBoy]

Was Reggie McKenzie's phone busy?

C'mon...!

[klos63]

9 minutes ago, PonyBoy said:

Was Reggie McKenzie's phone busy?

C'mon...!

Reggie was a guard.

[Bill from NYC]

9 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I was a huge Jason Peters fan.  I loved the story of how he went from UDFA to All-Pro OL with the Bills.  

Yes but really, he went from UDFA TE to RT to LT and was actually a GREAT LT. Although the timing of his holdout was unconvential, Peters really did deserve a raise. There were very few instances in which a very good to great LT has ever been traded. Willie Roaf comes to mind and although he was good, Peters was a clearly superior player (and supposedly there were personal issues involved).

 

There was no excuse to trade Peters. He was the best player on the team at that time. We were not even fairly compensated. It was one of the dumbest trades I for one have ever seen. Mr. Wilson just refused to pay Peters what he was worth.

[Mr. WEO]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

For reference........... @Mr. WEO has long been a Jason Peters hater..........scoffing ignorantly at the notion that he would be inducted into the HOF in recent years when it's basically a foregone conclusion for most of a decade now.

 

His 70 PFF grade last season.......at age 40.........would have ranked the second highest of any Bills OL.......I mean Saffold and Brown were in the low 40's and low 50's for reference.  

 

And 39 year old Jason Peters' 77.5 grade would have tied Dion Dawkins for the highest grade on the Bills in 2021.  

 

 

 

lol there he is!

 

Never a hater.  My thoughts on the value of the LT position in general (see Joe Thomas) flavor my view of any that get into the Hall.  I've made that clear.

 

But to suggest that is why I don't think it is wise to hire a 42 y/o guy (by the end of the season) because he is a former Bills icon isn't your strongest argument.  Had Peters not this week said he feels he can still play, you were  not calling for the Bills to find him and sign him. 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Ever since Vontae Davis, I am concerned about 'more mature' players leaving the team in a lurch...

[Mr. WEO]

28 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Cash-to-cap had nothing to do with it.  He wanted a new deal when he had 2 years left on the deal they gave him a year earlier than they needed to.  They were set to give him the deal he wanted (between $8-10M/year) after the 2008 season but he had already decided to leave and ended up making $10M/year in 2009 anyway.

 

I was a huge Jason Peters fan.  I loved the story of how he went from UDFA to All-Pro OL with the Bills.  Then he pulled that stunt.  Again I saw his team win a SB without him playing, being replaced by a JAG (Vaitai).  His presence wouldn't have made a difference in winning and losing given the teams they fielded.

 

this...

[billsfan89]

I don't think the Bills being "linked" to Peters is based on any inside information. I think people just look at the news of Shell retiring and then link that to Peters saying he will play again (on top of Peters's connection to Buffalo). It's all likely speculation based on nothing much if you ask me. 

 

Now as for would I mind Peters on the Bills? That's going to depend on what the coaches think of Doyle, Queese and the developmental tackles. If they think Peters represents an upgrade worth paying for then it could make sense. Sign Peters to be the 10th O-linemen or on the PS to mentor the younger players and be there to maybe handle a few starts if there are injuries. 

[BigDingus]

Ruben Brown also made 9 x Pro Bowls (and 4 x All Pro as well), but many Bills fans still don't think he was that good!

 

Do we think Jason Peters was worthy of all 9 Pro Bowls, or did he coast off his name & previous achievements for the latter ones? 😉

[billsfan89]

38 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Cash-to-cap had nothing to do with it.  He wanted a new deal when he had 2 years left on the deal they gave him a year earlier than they needed to.  They were set to give him the deal he wanted (between $8-10M/year) after the 2008 season but he had already decided to leave and ended up making $10M/year in 2009 anyway.

 

I was a huge Jason Peters fan.  I loved the story of how he went from UDFA to All-Pro OL with the Bills.  Then he pulled that stunt.  Again I saw his team win a SB without him playing, being replaced by a JAG (Vaitai).  His presence wouldn't have made a difference in winning and losing given the teams they fielded.

 

Wasn't the issue with Peters that he wanted a new deal entering into the 2008 season but because they had 3 years left on his deal they didn't want to redo it? So Peters basically played 2008 disgruntled and then with two years left just said I want out completely? I think had the Bills paid Peters in the 2008 off-season he would have stayed. That being said I do generally agree that even if they paid Peters what he wanted it wasn't going to make the difference from 2008 to 2017. The Bills were more than a great LT away from contending. 

 

From 2009 to 2011 the Bills struggled to find a Peters replacement but from 2012 to 2016 they had Cordy Glenn who was a good LT and from 2017 to present they had Dion Dawkins a good LT. So it wasn't like the Bills for many seasons Peters possibly would have been here didn't at least get above-average play at his position. 

 

I would have loved for Peters to have been here but at least the Bills got a good starting center for him and it wasn't like the team wasn't going to win with him as some sort of last missing piece. 

Edited August 19, 2023 by billsfan89

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

🤣😂😩 just when I thought I'd seen them all!

Lol I didn't notice that auto correct... maybe the ai is trying to say our ol tackles play like little girls.....

[Saxum]

49 minutes ago, DJB said:

Time heals all wounds 

 

Some fester and get worse.

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Didn't he piss on the organization and city after he left in FA? 

I was upset that that Bills  front office didn't deal with him f as irly.  Ì couldn't blame him for finding a team that treated him fairly.  Am even glad he got to win a SB with the Eagles. 

[Saxum]

24 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

Ruben Brown also made 9 x Pro Bowls (and 4 x All Pro as well), but many Bills fans still don't think he was that good!

 

Do we think Jason Peters was worthy of all 9 Pro Bowls, or did he coast off his name & previous achievements for the latter ones? 😉

 

According to some Bills fans Pro Bowls only seem to count when not playing for Buffalo.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Because the guy was so great and really is barely even associated with the Bills, it would  be cool to have him back for 1 year. Maybe he could solidify RT for a big time run and when the league looks back at one of the all time greats…you’d remember he and the Bills differently. That being said, I can’t picture him actually being interested. Doesn’t seem like it would happen 

[Doc]

54 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yes but really, he went from UDFA TE to RT to LT and was actually a GREAT LT. Although the timing of his holdout was unconvential, Peters really did deserve a raise. There were very few instances in which a very good to great LT has ever been traded. Willie Roaf comes to mind and although he was good, Peters was a clearly superior player (and supposedly there were personal issues involved).

 

There was no excuse to trade Peters. He was the best player on the team at that time. We were not even fairly compensated. It was one of the dumbest trades I for one have ever seen. Mr. Wilson just refused to pay Peters what he was worth.

 

He wanted out.  Like Roaf did.  When that happens there's not much you can do.

[1st&ten]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yes but really, he went from UDFA TE to RT to LT and was actually a GREAT LT. Although the timing of his holdout was unconvential, Peters really did deserve a raise. There were very few instances in which a very good to great LT has ever been traded. Willie Roaf comes to mind and although he was good, Peters was a clearly superior player (and supposedly there were personal issues involved).

 

There was no excuse to trade Peters. He was the best player on the team at that time. We were not even fairly compensated. It was one of the dumbest trades I for one have ever seen. Mr. Wilson just refused to pay Peters what he was worth.

I'm not so sure this is correct. Bills management realized that they had made a mistake & were willing to negotiate but his agent Eugene Parker would not even answer calls & negotiate with the Bills. The whole situation smacks of tampering as the Eagles & him probably already had an under the table deal ready. Of course the league didn't care because it was the lowly Bills.

[Coach Tuesday]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

this...

@Doc and @Mr. WEO agreeing?!?  Cats and dogs sleeping together????

NEVER CROSS THE STREAMS!

[Rico]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

Ruben Brown also made 9 x Pro Bowls (and 4 x All Pro as well), but many Bills fans still don't think he was that good!

 

Do we think Jason Peters was worthy of all 9 Pro Bowls, or did he coast off his name & previous achievements for the latter ones? 😉

Ruben Brown was garbage in comparison to Jason Peters.