Gazoo Helmets an Option For Players ???????????????

[Irv]

Anybody know if the Gazoo helmets (extra padding) are an option for players during the pre, post, and regular seasons?  Seems like if it is a good idea during camp/practice, why would it not be a good idea during the season?  Remember Kelso having something a really long time ago. I don't think I have seen anything since????  

Edited August 15, 2023 by Irv

[Doc]

Putting this:

 

 

on your helmet is never a good idea.

[BillsShredder83]

  On 8/14/2023 at 9:53 PM, Doc said:

Putting this:

 

 

on your helmet is never a good idea.

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Lawrence Taylor only kept his in his sock or the lockerroom

[PromoTheRobot]

  On 8/14/2023 at 9:52 PM, Irv said:

Anybody know if the Kazoo helmets (extra padding) are an option for players during the pre, post, and regular seasons?  Seems like if it is a good idea during camp/practice, why would it not be a good idea during the season?  Remember Kelso having something a really long time ago. I don't think I have seen anything since????  

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Gazoo....The Great Gazoo.

[Augie]

  On 8/14/2023 at 10:00 PM, BillsShredder83 said:

Lawrence Taylor only kept his in his sock or the lockerroom

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Michael Irvin was just holding his for a friend, trying to help him out. ‘Cause, you know, best friends return crack pipes later….. when it’s a better idea. 

[HIT BY SPIKES]

https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2011/10/news-kelso-s-helmet/

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Not sure about that, but I saw the padding they put on helmets during TC. Pretty standard for all teams now. Wondering if they do that to prevent head injury during camp if that's something they will try and incorporate down the road for games. 

[Old Coot]

Reminds me of when helmets and goalie masks became required equipment.

 

Gump Worsley was the last NHL goalie to play mask-less (and helment-less) in 1974.

 

Craig MacTavish was the last NHL player to play without a helmet. He retired in 1997.

 

 

[billsfanmiamioh]

  On 8/14/2023 at 11:23 PM, Old Coot said:

Reminds me of when helmets and goalie masks became required equipment.

 

Gump Worsley was the last NHL goalie to play mask-less (and helment-less) in 1974.

 

Craig MacTavish was the last NHL player to play without a helmet. He retired in 1997.

 

 

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Still remember seeing MacTavish play without one and thinking he was f’n insane 

[LeGOATski]

  On 8/14/2023 at 10:32 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

Not sure about that, but I saw the padding they put on helmets during TC. Pretty standard for all teams now. Wondering if they do that to prevent head injury during camp if that's something they will try and incorporate down the road for games. 

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The pads around the helmet are actually mandatory during camp now. This creates a philosophical dilemma and maybe a possible legal dilemma down the road, one would think, if the NFL is essentially admitting that those pads are needed for safety, why are they not mandatory all the time?

[BuffaloBillyG]

  On 8/14/2023 at 11:32 PM, LeGOATski said:

The pads around the helmet are actually mandatory during camp now. This creates a philosophical dilemma and maybe a possible legal dilemma down the road, one would think, if the NFL is essentially admitting that those pads are needed for safety, why are they not mandatory all the time?

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Absolutely. Yes, they are ugly as all can be. But if it's proven to reduce the chance for injury...well I'd rather see guys able to play.

 

I read a lot on other teams TCs as well (retired life affords time). And now that I'm thinking about it I have seen next to nothing on guys getting concussions in TC this year. Not sure if that's the normal.

[Livinginthepast]

Since Kelso's time they have discovered a lot more about concussions and I think part of that is they questioned the effectiveness of the "gazoo" style extra padding , same with the neck rolls or that box that players sometimes wore behind the helmet (like Brian Cox in the 90s). 

[Mr. WEO]

  On 8/14/2023 at 11:32 PM, LeGOATski said:

The pads around the helmet are actually mandatory during camp now. This creates a philosophical dilemma and maybe a possible legal dilemma down the road, one would think, if the NFL is essentially admitting that those pads are needed for safety, why are they not mandatory all the time?

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simple: players would refuse to wear them and the NFLPA would demand that they not be mandatory 

[Mark Vader]

  On 8/14/2023 at 10:21 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Gazoo....The Great Gazoo.

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Beat me to it.

[The Wiz]

I already thought Mahomes had a helmet like that.  His always looks 3 sizes too big.

[LeGOATski]

  On 8/15/2023 at 1:08 AM, Mr. WEO said:

simple: players would refuse to wear them and the NFLPA would demand that they not be mandatory 

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I would think so too, but of course they're not refusing to wear them in camp......

 

And I think the NFLPA would be in favor of anything that benefitted them monetarily, if the opportunity arose

[BillsFanForever19]

Yeah, I think they found out that an extra shell really doesn't do much when it comes to the brain being rattled around. In today's day and age of information when it comes to Concussions and Brain Injuries, if that made a difference, it would still be around.

 

They've surely since come up with better safety measurements for helmets since then that doesn't require a shell. 

[Doc Brown]

  On 8/14/2023 at 11:32 PM, LeGOATski said:

The pads around the helmet are actually mandatory during camp now. This creates a philosophical dilemma and maybe a possible legal dilemma down the road, one would think, if the NFL is essentially admitting that those pads are needed for safety, why are they not mandatory all the time?

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There's nothing preventing the players from wearing them in games.  I'm not sure if that option prevents a possible lawsuit down the road.

[GreggTX]

I'd like to see some data that shows how much these help -- Especially long term.

[JoPoy88]

  On 8/15/2023 at 5:15 AM, GreggTX said:

I'd like to see some data that shows how much these help -- Especially long term.

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32140546/guardian-caps-soft-shelled-football-helmet-covers-effective-limiting-head-injuries

 

there is no long term data on tech that’s been in use for 2-3 years, obviously.

 

They’re called Guardian Caps for the all the non-wannabe comedians out there.

Edited August 15, 2023 by JoPoy88