boater Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 12:46 AM, Simon said: There is nothing in that article that says the K was for Kelly. Expand There's no arguing with you, is there? Quote
Chaos Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 12:46 AM, Simon said: There is nothing in that article that says the K was for Kelly. Expand I guess they left any reference to Keith McKeller out of the article, and had that big picture of Jim Kelly, and the entire focus on Jim Kelly to throw readers off the scent. 1 Quote
Simon Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 12:49 AM, boater said: There's no arguing with you, is there? Expand You posted an article claiming it said something that it didn't. Not trying to be a pest, I'm just trying to help you realize that the K has always been considered to be in reference to Keith McKeller. That's not an opinion to be argued; it's just the way it's always been. 🤷♂️ On 8/18/2023 at 12:52 AM, Chaos said: I guess they left any reference to Keith McKeller out of the article, and had that big picture of Jim Kelly, and the entire focus on Jim Kelly to throw readers off the scent. Expand Just do a simple google search for "K Gun Keith McKeller" and you'll easily find 10 references that it was named for him. 1 2 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 12:49 AM, boater said: There's no arguing with you, is there? Expand Wow man. just searched in google (Who was the K gun offense named after) Right on top it says "Keith McKeller The "K-Gun" offense is commonly thought to be named after quarterback Jim Kelly, but was actually named for Keith McKeller, a 6-foot-6-inch (1.98 m), 245-pound (111 kg) dual-threat tight end." takes 2 seconds to look up. Why are you making something up off of nothing. Kelly might of been the main leader of the K-Gun but it was named AFTER McKeller. Period. End of story. Have a nice day bro. 1 Quote
Chaos Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 1:04 AM, PrimeTime101 said: Wow man. just searched in google (Who was the K gun offense named after) Right on top it says "Keith McKeller The "K-Gun" offense is commonly thought to be named after quarterback Jim Kelly, but was actually named for Keith McKeller, a 6-foot-6-inch (1.98 m), 245-pound (111 kg) dual-threat tight end." takes 2 seconds to look up. Why are you making something up off of nothing. Kelly might of been the main leader of the K-Gun but it was named AFTER McKeller. Period. End of story. Have a nice day bro. Expand If its on wikipedia, then picked up by google, it could never be wrong. I mean its the internet after all. 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 1:05 AM, Chaos said: If its on wikipedia, then picked up by google, it could never be wrong. I mean its the internet after all. Expand Or if you use the citation from Wikipedia you can find an article, you know because that's how Wikipedia works. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/12/2/1848736/december-2-1990-bills-unveil-no-huddle-offense Quote
Simon Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 1:05 AM, Chaos said: If its on wikipedia, then picked up by google, it could never be wrong. I mean its the internet after all. Expand Here's an autographed photo of McKeller where he himself wrote K-Gun Now go get your shinebox.... 2 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted August 18, 2023 Author Posted August 18, 2023 I thought everybody knew the K-Gun was named after McKeller, an athletic receiving tight end, kind of like Dalton Kincaid. Quote
Simon Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 1:12 AM, BigAl2526 said: I thought everybody knew the K-Gun was named after McKeller, an athletic receiving tight end, kind of like Dalton Kincaid. Expand He was more of a two way guy than Kincaid; a waaaayyyy better blocker. The reason they could run it so well is that they could leave him on the field in all situations because he was good at everything and didn't have to make substitutions or give the defense time to make them. 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 https://www.facebook.com/Coldfrontreport/videos/2170970933198392/ Oh look a video with Maddy Glab narrating it. Quote
Simon Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 1:21 AM, Warcodered said: https://www.facebook.com/Coldfrontreport/videos/2170970933198392/ Oh look a video with Maddy Glab narrating it. Expand Quit yer arguing you combative SOB! Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) On 8/17/2023 at 6:54 PM, Chaos said: Everything I can find says the K Gun was named for Jim Kelly. Expand Incorrect. As @Fleezoidpointed out, the K was McKeller. Edited August 18, 2023 by Freddie's Dead Quote
Simon Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 1:35 AM, Freddie's Dead said: Incorrect. As @Fleezoidpointed out, the K was McKeller. Expand Or was it for "Keith"? We should start a huge argument about that. 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) On 8/18/2023 at 1:10 AM, Simon said: Here's an autographed photo of McKeller where he himself wrote K-Gun Now go get your shinebox.... Expand @Simon to @Chaos: Edited August 18, 2023 by Freddie's Dead Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 1:10 AM, Simon said: Here's an autographed photo of McKeller where he himself wrote K-Gun Now go get your shinebox.... Expand Goodfellas (for those that don't know the phrase) *** warning Foul Language. 1 Quote
AuntieEm Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) On 8/14/2023 at 6:19 PM, Einstein's Dog said: Great to hear. One step closer to having Josh go no-huddle when they get advantageous player situations. And that should happen quite a bit more this year with the problems Kincaid can present to D Coordinators. Expand And they have the luxury of maybe practicing it but saving it for an adder element in a heated playoff run. And during regular season act end of halves as two min drill practices. Edited August 18, 2023 by AuntieEm Quote
Dan Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) On 8/18/2023 at 12:13 AM, boater said: You have ONE blog article citing the K-Gun being other than Jim Kelly. You'll need more than that to convince me. Expand I don’t need an internet-based article to prove it. I lived it. It was the K-Gun In reference to Keith McKeller, the TE. When McKeller would come in, the defense would substitute to a favorable package for the Bills Offense. So, they would switch to the no huddle attack to take advantage. Of course, the offense evolved and wasn’t just reliant on which TE was on the field, but that’s how it all began. And, yes, I experienced the Trent Edwards debacle as well. I think any person that experienced the Kelly led no huddle attack, realized that was gonna be a hot mess. Josh, I must admit, may be another story. I’ve often thought he may have the skill set and mentality to run an effective no huddle offense all game. edit: although now a days with OC to QB communications its a different world, all together, when it comes to a QB calling his own plays at the line. Edited August 18, 2023 by Dan Quote
Buffalo716 Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 On 8/17/2023 at 6:54 PM, Chaos said: Everything I can find says the K Gun was named for Jim Kelly. Expand Yea he's right definitely mckeller Been the story for 30 years Quote
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