Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond

[aristocrat]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

It doesn't like that the song lumps dems and republicans together.

 

Dems are her masters. Therefore his programming allows nothing else but flailing tantrums.

 

But you should know this by now.

I do. It’s funny to keep seeing her twist her minds into pretzels defending the indefensible 

[BillStime]

7 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Specifically what is so upsetting to you and the song? 

 

I have no issue with the song. It's music - I love music.

 

I do love, though, how the cult is embracing a song that blames all their problems on the rich man and yet... you freaks can't get enough of this:

 

 

 

 

 

Whatever you do - be sure to donate (monthly) and pay off Trump's legal bills. 

 

Afterall, that's all he loves about his pathetic cult.

 

 

 

 

 

[aristocrat]

5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

I have no issue with the song. It's music - I love music.

 

I do love, though, how the cult is embracing a song that blames all their problems on the rich man and yet... you freaks can't get enough of this:

 

 

 

 

 

Whatever you do - be sure to donate (monthly) and pay off Trump's legal bills. 

 

Afterall, that's all he loves about his pathetic cult.

 

 

 

 

 

he’s rent free in your head. At least we know what trump is. You pretend to think joe is some innocent lifelong politician. Deep down you know the damage he’s caused to this country. Generations of minorities imprisoned with his drug laws from the 80s and you give him a pass. Sad 

[SCBills]

Leftist hit squad has been unleashed on the artist today.  
 

Servants of the state cannot handle any form of art that doesn’t glorify the degradation of society. 
 

Protest anthems are only allowed by the industry if they push the interests of the corporations that fund them. 
 

Edited August 12, 2023 by SCBills

[TSOL]

It just seems like the left can't process anything that isn't state and or corporate sponsored. 

 

Sad 

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

Ya know, if he wants more money, he should probably give up being a musician.  Some of the best bluegrass artists still live in their parents basement.  I hear UPS drivers are getting 100k.  btw, that resonator guitar is probably worth $1000

 

 

Projecting your vast knowledge of inaccuracies  as usual 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

I do. It’s funny to keep seeing her twist her minds into pretzels defending the indefensible 

 

When ya got nothing else - pull a Bonnie.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, TSOL said:

It just seems like the left can't process anything that isn't state and or corporate sponsored. 

 

Sad 

 

 

Projecting your vast knowledge of inaccuracies  as usual 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/

 

I was off on the gretsch.  National resonators can go for over $3K.  Surprised at this price

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Gretsch-Guitars/G9240-Alligator-Round-Neck-Mahogany-Body-Biscuit-Cone-Resonator-Guitar-2-Color-Sunburst-1500000206464.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9_2Zpt_XgAMVAtzjBx1mTg_wEAQYAyABEgL18_D_BwE

Edited August 12, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Leftist hit squad has been unleashed on the artist today.  
 

Servants of the state cannot handle any form of art that doesn’t glorify the degradation of society. 
 

Protest anthems are only allowed by the industry if they push the interests of the corporations that fund them. 
 

What is he protesting?  That he's not paid enough as a factory worker?  Does the gov't control that?

[TSOL]

34 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ups-drivers-170000-pay-benefits-compensation/

 

I was off on the gretsch.  National resonators can go for over $3K.  Surprised at this price

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Gretsch-Guitars/G9240-Alligator-Round-Neck-Mahogany-Body-Biscuit-Cone-Resonator-Guitar-2-Color-Sunburst-1500000206464.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9_2Zpt_XgAMVAtzjBx1mTg_wEAQYAyABEgL18_D_BwE

 

 

You oughta show a little.more resect for the working man, chicken the guys who built your house, the guys who fix your car. 

 

Do you really want to tread on those guys? Because man, that's a battle guys like you will lose every time. 

[SCBills]

21 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

What is he protesting?  That he's not paid enough as a factory worker?  Does the gov't control that?

The song is basically the blue collar working man anthem.  
 

It has some elements of (what used to be) Democrat views and (what currently is) Republican views. 
 

I guarantee you that the blue collar working man in the Rust Belt/South identifies with this song.  They aren’t all conservatives. 
 

Says a lot that only the left is attacking him.   Heaven forbid he call out taxation and entitlement abuses in an otherwise working class/forgotten man ballad.  
 

The reason … it’s obvious - the left no longer cares about those people.. and furthermore, seems to resent them. 

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by SCBills

[BillsFanNC]

No surprise that @BillStime can't discern between

 

Rich businessmen..

 

And rich POLITICIANS, north of Richmond. 

 

A useful idiot.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The song is basically the blue collar working man anthem.  
 

It has some elements of (what used to be) Democrat views and (what currently is) Republican views. 
 

I guarantee you that the blue collar working man in the Rust Belt/South identifies with this song. 
 

Says a lot that only the left is attacking this song.   Heaven forbid he call out taxation and entitlement abuses in an otherwise working class/forgotten man song.  
 

The reason … it’s obvious - the left no longer cares about those people. 
 

I don't doubt they identify with it.  What is it that they want?  War protestors wanted to end the war.  Gore protestors wanted SCOTUS to rule in their favor.  Floyd protestors wanted police violence to end.  But what do blue collar working people want from Washington?  Somebody who pretends to be their voice?

[BillsFanNC]

 

 

[SCBills]

10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I don't doubt they identify with it.  What is it that they want?  War protestors wanted to end the war.  Gore protestors wanted SCOTUS to rule in their favor.  Floyd protestors wanted police violence to end.  But what do blue collar working people want from Washington?  Somebody who pretends to be their voice?

Sounds like he wishes life were different for those his song is about, but the hauntingly melancholy aspect of the song is that he knows nothing will change because those in charge do not care about him/them.  
 

Those in power are happy to have us subservient to the state, barely getting by, as they know/control what we do, tax us for things that do not benefit us (like the entitlements line about someone who should not be receiving entitlements).  
 

It’s an accurate representation of a large, and growing, swath of America.  
 

The first part of any protest is putting into words how so many feel.  He does that.  
 

You can think whatever you want about Trump.  I’m certainly not his biggest fan.  But his election was due to this underlying sentiment across the country .. especially in the Rust Belt states he was able to win.  Those states are full of blue collar Democrats that flipped to him.   And then he was taken out by the state.  As the state continues to flex on him.   And we are enduring another administration that resents them, almost mockingly, by their geriatric puppet pretending he’s one of them as those actually in power **** them every which way but sideways. 
 

Edited August 12, 2023 by SCBills

[Joe Ferguson forever]

13 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Sounds like he wishes life were different for those his song is about, but the hauntingly melancholy aspect of the song is that he knows nothing will change because those in charge do not care about him/them.  
 

Those in power are happy to have us subservient to the state, barely getting by, as they know/control what we do, tax us for things that do not benefit us (like the entitlements line about someone who should not be receiving entitlements).  
 

It’s an accurate representation of a large, and growing, swath of America.  
 

The first part of any protest is putting into words how so many feel.  He does that.  
 

You can think whatever you want about Trump.  I’m certainly not his biggest fan.  But his election was due to this underlying sentiment across the country .. especially in the Rust Belt states he was able to win.  Those states are full of blue collar Democrats that flipped to him.   And then he was taken out by the state.  As the state continues to flex on him.   And we are enduring another administration that resents them, almost mockingly, by their geriatric puppet pretending he’s one of them as they **** them every which way but sideways. 

I just don't see how blue collar workers are getting f'ed by the gov't.  Taxes are still very progressive.  trump actually gave tax breaks to the rich tho.  D's fight for unions more than R's.  Freeloaders are the one area I agree with.  They should be prosecuted if there's fraud.  I think both parties could agree on this but most efforts are symbolic and ineffective.  There is a belief by some social scientists that it's actually cheaper to give away money to the poor than to build programs to build skills.  I don't agree with it but there's evidence for it.  the other issue is a difference of opinion on social issues.  For example, a great many working people (don't like this term cuz i worked hard too) would benefit from single payer healthcare.  But they're against it cuz it's view2ed as "socialism".

Edited August 12, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillsFanNC]

Will serve like another Trump Indictment...

 

Right wing!!

 

 

More popular.

 

 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

I just don't see how blue collar workers are getting f'ed by the gov't.  Taxes are still very progressive.  trump actually gave tax breaks to the rich tho.  D's fight for unions more than R's.  Freeloaders are the one area I agree with.  They should be prosecuted if there's fraud.  I think both parties could agree on this but most efforts are symbolic and ineffective.  There is a belief by some social scientists that it's actually cheaper to give away money to the poor than to build programs to build skills.  I don't agree with it but there's evidence for it.

If we’re going to be real about it .. a lot of this boils down to blue collar white people.   Furthermore, blue collar white men who still grasp to the dream of building a family and being a reliable provider for their family. 

Those who have to hear that diversity is our strength and they have privilege as they scrap and claw to get by. 
 

Some of it is policy related and some of it is perception related.

Fentanyl overdoses are prevalent in these parts of the country, while we have a pseudo-open border.  Money bypasses their communities in favor of affluent suburbs and cities.  Suicide rates in young men are sky high.  

Who speaks to them?  Certainly not those in power (aside from a few).  Certainly not culture.. which, if anything, is antagonistic towards them. 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

If we’re going to be real about it .. a lot of this boils down to blue collar white people.   Furthermore, blue collar white men who still grasp to the dream of building a family and being a reliable provider for their family. 

Those who have to hear that diversity is our strength and they have privilege as they scrap and claw to get by. 
 

Some of it is policy related and some of it is perception related.

Fentanyl overdoses are prevalent in these parts of the country, while we have a pseudo-open border.  Money bypasses their communities in favor of affluent suburbs and cities.  Suicide rates in young men are sky high.  

Who speaks to them?  Certainly not those in power (aside from a few).  Certainly not culture.. which, if anything, is antagonistic towards them. 

 

I agree with all of this.  I can get my senator or congressman to answer my emails but in no way do I influence policy.  Talked to Tim Kaine once for about 5 mins at a private party/fundraiser about single payer.  In so many words, he told me "not gonna happen".  I think the white privilege point is a fair criticism and is counterproductive to the country as a whole.  It was there but is pretty well gone esp in the communities you are pointing to.  But the social programs that D's often push would help poor whites too and they often reject them.  I also agree it's about perception and a voice for them.  Unions were that voice for many years but have been weakened by both parties and by money in politics.  Campaign finance rules would certainly help but I'm not sure there'd be much excitement for it even among this part of the electorate.  All candidates should be forced to speak to this issue.

[SCBills]

35 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I agree with all of this.  I can get my senator or congressman to answer my emails but in no way do I influence policy.  Talked to Tim Kaine once for about 5 mins at a private party/fundraiser about single payer.  In so many words, he told me "not gonna happen".  I think the white privilege point is a fair criticism and is counterproductive to the country as a whole.  It was there but is pretty well gone esp in the communities you are pointing to.  But the social programs that D's often push would help poor whites too and they often reject them.  I also agree it's about perception and a voice for them.  Unions were that voice for many years but have been weakened by both parties and by money in politics.  Campaign finance rules would certainly help but I'm not sure there'd be much excitement for it even among this part of the electorate.  All candidates should be forced to speak to this issue.

Yea .. Ironically enough - an infusion of some more Dem leaning policies in poorer white areas may help them, just as an infusion of more right leaning policies in inner cities would do the same for black communities. 

[BillsFanNC]

A matter of time before YouTube bans his channel so...

 

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by BillsFanNC