Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond

[B-Man]

 

LOL.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 25, 2023 by B-Man

[Joe Ferguson forever]

26 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I do feel sorry for 8, since I think teachers are grossly underpaid.

Especially in states with Red legislatures/governors.  My niece made 30k to start with a masters in NC.  She does better now as she climbed the ladder and 1st bought a cheap condo and moved into a house as the market increased.  All carefully planned with little room for error.  But she stuck with it because it is her passion.  I love that kid!

 

Edited August 25, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[BillStime]

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

True.

And under the new collective bargaining agreement, you can't start as a driver. You start in the warehouse sorting packages. Then, you know, work your way up. And if you show up on time, sober, and ready to work, you get promoted to driver. 

It's funny, a while back I was talking with a guy who is a teacher about pay and benefits, relative to the income earned by a UPS driver.  We had some mildly contentious discussions, but my recollection is I shared the thought that being a UPS driver was a difficult job--long hours, demanding employer, road time--etc and that the drivers were paid commensurate with duties.  His response was that they were basically pizza delivery men.  ***disclaimer--he may have been responding to a jab I took at him, and his response may have been to jab at me***. 

 

Anyway, good for the UPS drivers.  Sh*t gets moved by those folks. 

[SectionC3]

10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

It's funny, a while back I was talking with a guy who is a teacher about pay and benefits, relative to the income earned by a UPS driver.  We had some mildly contentious discussions, but my recollection is I shared the thought that being a UPS driver was a difficult job--long hours, demanding employer, road time--etc and that the drivers were paid commensurate with duties.  His response was that they were basically pizza delivery men.  ***disclaimer--he may have been responding to a jab I took at him, and his response may have been to jab at me***. 

 

Anyway, good for the UPS drivers.  Sh*t gets moved by those folks. 

Riding truck with UPS is a backbreaking job.  They deserve every penny they get.  

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Good for them. You never hear about the 99% who wind up like the pre-Rich Men Oliver Anthony.

I don't criticize him for following his passion! It's a choice.

I only criticize him if his lyrics (which seem to be based on his personal experiences) suggest that someone else was to blame for his dreams not coming true for a dozen years. He persevered, he hit it big. Most give up or keep trying, working in bars and restaurants while they keep trying to land their big break. 

Amen.  He’s entitled to his point of view and his song.  How it is a conservative anthem confuses the life out of me.  If anything, it’s a call to unionize.  It’s also an anthem in support of socialism (a muddy concept in today’s society, to be sure).  He’s not happy with his lot in life.  The solution isn’t to whine about things not breaking his way after dropping out of high school and to blame others for his plight.  It’s to get to work and attacking those problems.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Riding truck with UPS is a backbreaking job.  They deserve every penny they get.  

YOU CAN GO TO HEL...wait...

 

 What? 

 

👍
 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

YOU CAN GO TO HEL...wait...

 

 What? 

 

👍
 

 

Working hard should ensure a roof, food, good schools for your kids, transportation to work etc.  

The basics at least.  It doesn't.  So good on UPS!  Lazy sloths can have the scraps.  And cheaters should be prosecuted.  What say you Lenny?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

Anyway, good for the UPS drivers.  Sh*t gets moved by those folks. 

Riding truck with UPS is a backbreaking job.  They deserve every penny they get.  

no doubt.  And they're almost always pleasant.  Even with dogs barking at them.  Pay well, get the best.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

21 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Working hard should ensure a roof, food, good schools for your kids, transportation to work etc.  

The basics at least.  It doesn't.  So good on UPS!  Lazy sloths can have the scraps.  And cheaters should be prosecuted.  What say you Lenny?

There's a lot packed in there, Pretend Fergie.  I like the idea of hard work, like the idea of good schools, not certain what you mean about transportation to work, and think take your lazy getting the scraps at face value.  I'm also completely in favor of food.  

 

As for cheaters being prosecuted, I'm not sure what you're getting at.  I think some cheaters get prosecuted, others are not, and one size doesn't fit all.  I've mentioned G W Bush a few times here but I can't seem to gain traction.  The story goes from Obama on down that W manufactured and fabricated intelligence to provoke a war.  That war resulted in the deaths of a million +, traumatic and life altering injuries too many to count, plus the destruction of a country or two.   He wasn't prosecuted. 

 

He's actually become pretty chummy with his chief accuser, post presidency.  What say you, Fergie For?  

 

Eliot Spitzer, well he seemed kinda cheaty.  He was moving call girls across state lines, spending all sorts of dough on criminal enterprises, and nearly choked out a Russian prostitute, how ironic is that.  He wasn't prosecuted.  Whatcha think, Fegulicious?  

 

Hunter Biden...well it sure seemed like his cheaty cheatness was going away, but that may be rectified.  

 

Hillary kinds cheated on her obligations, Joe B too, slippage or no.

 

I think context matters, Fergo.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

47 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There's a lot packed in there, Pretend Fergie.  I like the idea of hard work, like the idea of good schools, not certain what you mean about transportation to work, and think take your lazy getting the scraps at face value.  I'm also completely in favor of food.  

 

As for cheaters being prosecuted, I'm not sure what you're getting at.  I think some cheaters get prosecuted, others are not, and one size doesn't fit all.  I've mentioned G W Bush a few times here but I can't seem to gain traction.  The story goes from Obama on down that W manufactured and fabricated intelligence to provoke a war.  That war resulted in the deaths of a million +, traumatic and life altering injuries too many to count, plus the destruction of a country or two.   He wasn't prosecuted. 

 

He's actually become pretty chummy with his chief accuser, post presidency.  What say you, Fergie For?  

 

Eliot Spitzer, well he seemed kinda cheaty.  He was moving call girls across state lines, spending all sorts of dough on criminal enterprises, and nearly choked out a Russian prostitute, how ironic is that.  He wasn't prosecuted.  Whatcha think, Fegulicious?  

 

Hunter Biden...well it sure seemed like his cheaty cheatness was going away, but that may be rectified.  

 

Hillary kinds cheated on her obligations, Joe B too, slippage or no.

 

I think context matters, Fergo.  

deflection and obfuscation...you should trademark them.  Cheaters in this context means welfare or disability cheater.  and the context is the song and its message.  but u knew that and wimped out...

[BillsFanNC]

Oh.

 

He was talking about ALL of them wasn't he?

 

Bills*****, Quack MD, Finding Qanon are fans now?

 

 

[TSOL]

There's a thriving bluegrass scene and it's not this guy. 

 

If anyone ever wants to here some real bluegrass, new bluegrass then just say the word 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

deflection and obfuscation...you should trademark them.  Cheaters in this context means welfare or disability cheater.  and the context is the song and its message.  but u knew that and wimped out...

See, there’s the trouble. The cheaters from my perspective would be the Rich Men North of Richmond, hence my reply.  The cheaters from your perspective were quite a different lot.   The context I was referring to was all about your statement that “cheaters should be prosecuted”.  I’m a realist, I don’t think every cheater should be prosecuted, and some people are definitely above the law.  They tend to be wealthy and powerful, and some live north of Richmond.
 

On the other stuff in your post, pull yourself together and stop being a jacka$$.  
 

 

 
 

 

[BillStime]

5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There's a lot packed in there, Pretend Fergie.  I like the idea of hard work, like the idea of good schools, not certain what you mean about transportation to work, and think take your lazy getting the scraps at face value.  I'm also completely in favor of food.  

 

As for cheaters being prosecuted, I'm not sure what you're getting at.  I think some cheaters get prosecuted, others are not, and one size doesn't fit all.  I've mentioned G W Bush a few times here but I can't seem to gain traction.  The story goes from Obama on down that W manufactured and fabricated intelligence to provoke a war.  That war resulted in the deaths of a million +, traumatic and life altering injuries too many to count, plus the destruction of a country or two.   He wasn't prosecuted. 

 

He's actually become pretty chummy with his chief accuser, post presidency.  What say you, Fergie For?  

 

Eliot Spitzer, well he seemed kinda cheaty.  He was moving call girls across state lines, spending all sorts of dough on criminal enterprises, and nearly choked out a Russian prostitute, how ironic is that.  He wasn't prosecuted.  Whatcha think, Fegulicious?  

 

Hunter Biden...well it sure seemed like his cheaty cheatness was going away, but that may be rectified.  

 

Hillary kinds cheated on her obligations, Joe B too, slippage or no.

 

I think context matters, Fergo.  

Long story short - you went from GW Bush to Hunter Biden 

 

One day you will realize how pathetic you are.

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[John from Riverside]

9 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Yeah, I haven’t really commented on this because they were words in that song that made me think that this was not a conservative supporter. Everybody jumped on the lyrics talking about welfare. I thought that he explained them pretty well in that video.

 

Just like try it a small town it’s just a song it’s not a culture shift and I hope that this guy makes his bag just like a Jason Aldean does

Edited August 26, 2023 by John from Riverside

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

See, there’s the trouble. The cheaters from my perspective would be the Rich Men North of Richmond, hence my reply.  The cheaters from your perspective were quite a different lot.   The context I was referring to was all about your statement that “cheaters should be prosecuted”.  I’m a realist, I don’t think every cheater should be prosecuted, and some people are definitely above the law.  They tend to be wealthy and powerful, and some live north of Richmond.
 

On the other stuff in your post, pull yourself together and stop being a jacka$$.  
 

 

 
 

 

wimp  r u on disability?  psych issues?  verbosity is a characteristic of some conditions.  can't remember.  never my interest.

Edited August 26, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[BillsFanNC]

Of course billstool and JFR can only view this guy and his song through a partisan lens.

 

Meanwhile sane people knew from the first listen that he was singing about ALL the rich men north of Richmond.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Of course billstool and JFR can only view this guy and his song through a partisan lens.

 

Meanwhile sane people knew from the first listen that he was singing about ALL the rich men north of Richmond.

Yes, because so many posters here pointed that out early in the thread...and Fox used it in the R debate...you cons here play dirty pool.  it's who you are.  Almost never straightforward and forthright.  Just like your leader.  The Klingons must float to the top when you jump in the water.

[Tommy Callahan]

16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Of course billstool and JFR can only view this guy and his song through a partisan lens.

 

Meanwhile sane people knew from the first listen that he was singing about ALL the rich men north of Richmond.

Oh. It's triggered.  And projecting it's own patterns now.