Hawaii fires

[ExiledInIllinois]

On 8/13/2023 at 3:16 PM, boyst said:

They're going to blame the corporations over their own government who did not do their civil obligation to protect the natural resources?

 

Refusing to burn, refusing to take care of the grasslands and woodlands, and simply allowing overcrowding to occur is sad.

 

Insurance will offer a payout and hopefully he power company ups the charges back on the people.

Take a look at the picture above. No combustibles around the house. The river rock and 5 foot clear zone WASN'T BUILT for fire protection, but the steel roof and that 5 foot clear served that purpose... It was still designed that way for local geographical reasons.

 

Which begs the question,  why aren't we building according to the land, location, and ClimateChange?

 

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Horrifying. The local news has been consumed by this and you just can't take yourself away from each individual horror story.

 

Gonna end up being the worst fire in American history. Shouldn't happen in modern times.

 

We're super dry in the state generally, though. Wednesday I drove next to a brush fire on Wednesday in Wahiawa that burned 450 acres. Today I heard there was another brush fire on Old Farrington Road between where I live and where my in-laws live.

 

@GoBills808 I'm glad you and your farm are okay. Big Island so frequently gets hit hard... glad you were spared of this.

 

Need the rainy season 

Agree on some of this, but disagree on other parts. Need to start building according to the location! It's modern times!

 

"The Great Chicago Fire was a conflagration that burned in the American city of Chicago during October 8–10, 1871. The fire killed approximately 300 people, destroyed roughly 3.3 square miles (9 km2) of the city including over 17,000 structures, and left more than 100,000 residents homeless."

 

Peshtigo, Wisconsin was worse! Happened on same day as Great Chicago Fire! 

 

Maui fires aren't even close to the death toll and destruction!

 

"The Peshtigo fire was a large forest fire on October 8, 1871, in northeastern Wisconsin, United States, including much of the southern half of the Door Peninsula and adjacent parts of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. The largest community in the affected area was Peshtigo, Wisconsin, which had a population of approximately 1,700 residents. The fire burned about 1.2 million acres and is the deadliest wildfire in RECORDED HISTORY, with the number of DEATHS estimated between 1,500 and 2,500.  Although the exact number of deaths is debated, mass graves, both those already exhumed and those still being discovered, in Peshtigo and the surrounding areas show that the death toll of the blaze was most likely greater than the 1889 Johnstown flood death toll of 2,200 people or more."

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois

[ExiledInIllinois]

 

Same day... Same year... 100s of miles apart. Maybe it was the climate that sparked 2 huge fires back in 1871. 

 

Back then we blamed the humans and learned to build better. Today we still blame us humans but more so the power companies and ClimateChange and dodge the way we engineer and build.  Maybe we should definitely start rebuilding for ClimateChange. That means better engineered structures for the set location AND less people in the ClimateChange "danger zones."

[LabattBlue]

Story on house that survived….

 

https://www.civilbeat.org/2023/08/what-saved-the-miracle-house-in-lahaina/