Man in Utah shot and killed today for threatening the president

[BillStime]

6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

As typical @BillStime is a moron.

 

Nobody here has defended the threats this man made.

 

Why do commies like billstime never question tactics used by the FBI that in this case appear unnecessary to say the least?

 

I'm not paranoid like you, Karen Psyop.

 

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

25 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Why does MAGA always defend the indefensible?

because they see themselves in these human feces

[BillStime]

12 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

^^^^^^^^^ LMAO.  dude has an entire device full of pictures of trump and J6^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

And entirely missing the point or its own contradiction. 

 

TDS destroys people.

 

 

 

Thanks Chris, how could I forget about this gem - where DR spent pages defending this, too:

 

 

So funny how these idiots can't stand being reminded of EVERY defense they make for their Führer and fellow cult members.

 

 

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Andy1 said:

FBI went in knowing he was mentally unstable with an arsenal inside. Same as cops when they know the suspect is armed. Many times it’s also suicide by cop. 

And what is the typical response from those on the left and media pundits?   I’ll give you a hint….they blame law enforcement for being heartless and cruel. 
 

Based on what we know now, seems to me this guy was absolutely off his rocker.  The video from the shooting should tell us all we need to know.   

[Irv]

So Demented Biden orders the execution of an elderly and sick man, for simply exercising his First Amendment rights, and this is Trump's fault?

 

  

 

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by Irv

[Westside]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

because they see themselves in these human feces

You’re one generation away from poor white trash. It shows.

[yall]

I love how everyone is all "the police can't be trusted!!!" but then the FBI does something and the same people unflinchingly support them without any explanation as to what led to the shooting.

 

Don't get me wrong, this guy was a whacko and was effectively inviting a response from law enforcement, but how many other people in recent news have also been acting erratic, committing a crime, or clearly demonstrating a risk to themselves or others which in turn led to use of force only to have the cops demonized with no regard for the facts?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

52 minutes ago, Westside said:

You’re one generation away from poor white trash. It shows.

If that were true, which it isn't, wouldn't that make my perspective even more relevant?  Ya know - bootstraps, the american dream....I admire those folks but only if they don't lie and cheat.

Edited August 10, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Irv]

1 hour ago, yall said:

I love how everyone is all "the police can't be trusted!!!" but then the FBI does something and the same people unflinchingly support them without any explanation as to what led to the shooting.

 

Don't get me wrong, this guy was a whacko and was effectively inviting a response from law enforcement, but how many other people in recent news have also been acting erratic, committing a crime, or clearly demonstrating a risk to themselves or others which in turn led to use of force only to have the cops demonized with no regard for the facts?

 

If he wasn't a white guy, there would have been 80 "peaceful demonstrations" last night.  What a mess.  

 

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by Irv

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, Westside said:

You’re one generation away from poor white trash. It shows.

meh. reads like it still is.

 

No way do trolls overstate their position in life on social media.  Never happened, never will

 

 

 

 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

17 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

So on one hand this dude is saying "We don't know what the facts are...we'll wait for those" while literally proceeding right after with his rhetoric. So the only difference really when they complain about the MSM rushing to their own judgements is that they didn't simply preface it with "we don't know what all the facts are". 

 

I'm not even trying to defend the FBI because I don't trust any government institution and I would totally agree that MSM rushes to the conclusions they want before all the facts are in, it's just interesting to me how this works when some of these "independent" people report on things when they do just about the exact same thing, but they think it's validated because they threw in a little phrase at the top. 

 

It reminds me of this scene in Talladega Nights:

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

1 hour ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

So on one hand this dude is saying "We don't know what the facts are...we'll wait for those" while literally proceeding right after with his rhetoric. So the only difference really when they complain about the MSM rushing to their own judgements is that they didn't simply preface it with "we don't know what all the facts are". 

 

I'm not even trying to defend the FBI because I don't trust any government institution and I would totally agree that MSM rushes to the conclusions they want before all the facts are in, it's just interesting to me how this works when some of these "independent" people report on things when they do just about the exact same thing, but they think it's validated because they threw in a little phrase at the top. 

 

It reminds me of this scene in Talladega Nights:

 

 

 

So not only does he state that we don't know all the facts (nevermind that we likely never will, so I guess people need to wait to the 12th of never to opine?).....

 

He states why he is not giving any benefit of the doubt...

 

We don’t know all the facts or any real threat the killed man might have posed. If this was a local law enforcement incident, I would give the local cops the benefit of the doubt. @FBI’s pattern of conduct has stripped the Bureau of any such benefit.

 

So if the MSM did as you suggest and put the disclaimer of we don't know all the facts yet AND include a reason why, it would read something like this:

 

Trump has been accused of X, and while we are being mindful of not knowing all the facts yet, does it really matter?  I mean it's Trump.

 

 

[aristocrat]

Fbi-we’ve got a 300 lb guy who can’t walk without a cane and goes to church every Sunday. Let’s get the armored truck and bull doze his house and kill him. Seems like they’re a hundred other ways they could have handled this without killing him. Could have put him in jail. What a mess

[BillsFanNC]

 

Interview with friend of victim.

 

 

 

[HomeskillitMoorman]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

So not only does he state that we don't know all the facts (nevermind that we likely never will, so I guess people need to wait to the 12th of never to opine?).....

 

He states why he is not giving any benefit of the doubt...

 

We don’t know all the facts or any real threat the killed man might have posed. If this was a local law enforcement incident, I would give the local cops the benefit of the doubt. @FBI’s pattern of conduct has stripped the Bureau of any such benefit.

 

So if the MSM did as you suggest and put the disclaimer of we don't know all the facts yet AND include a reason why, it would read something like this:

 

Trump has been accused of X, and while we are being mindful of not knowing all the facts yet, does it really matter?  I mean it's Trump.

 

 

 

Yeah, I just don't see how this is really any different. And there's more information coming out as we speak, you literally just posted something new. Everyone's basically doing the same thing, they're just using minor semantics to try to say they aren't. 

48 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

Fbi-we’ve got a 300 lb guy who can’t walk without a cane and goes to church every Sunday. Let’s get the armored truck and bull doze his house and kill him. Seems like they’re a hundred other ways they could have handled this without killing him. Could have put him in jail. What a mess

 

Overall I would agree...but why does the going to church every Sunday part matter?

[BillsFanNC]

7 minutes ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

Yeah, I just don't see how this is really any different. And there's more information coming out as we speak, you literally just posted something new. Everyone's basically doing the same thing, they're just using minor semantics to try to say they aren't. 

 

 

The real difference is the guy isn't even a journalist. He's just a guy with some reach on social media with his take on things.

 

Real journalists SHOULD be held to a higher standard, but they're not. Mostly because there aren't many journalists left, just activists.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kemp]

If Trump didn't exist, the dead man in Utah would be alive.

He's less than collateral damage to Trump.

[aristocrat]

1 hour ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

 

Yeah, I just don't see how this is really any different. And there's more information coming out as we speak, you literally just posted something new. Everyone's basically doing the same thing, they're just using minor semantics to try to say they aren't. 

 

Overall I would agree...but why does the going to church every Sunday part matter?

Seems like an easy place to grab him and take him when you can just rush him and not raid his home

[BillsFanNC]

So a 5'4" 300 lb 75 year old man, who can't get up from his chair without a cane had been under surveillance by the FBI since March.

 

According to the interview with his friend he attended church regularly. Maybe during one of those regular trips to church, it might have been a better, safer opportunity to apprehend him?

 

But let's do an FBI swat team raid at dawn.

 

 

 

[Unforgiven]

the op is a good lil nazi. savoring in the killing of a whitey

 

the op's hero

 

 

 

Edited August 10, 2023 by Unforgiven