Matt_In_NH Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) Here is how I see the 53....actually 54 with Miller on PUP. I think the Bills will trade one or two guys. Based on reports I considered Shavers over Shorter but Beane likes his draft picks under 4 year contracts. Updates prior to Preseason game 1 Morris in, Sterberger out. Gilliam in Boettger out Basham in, no one out. Explanation. Every year the Bills set a 53 and waive someone (like Reid Ferguson) that they then sign back the next day after they put someone on IR. I am predicting they do that with someone below. So with miller, that makes 55 total guys which is what they did last year to start the season. Updates prior Preseason Game 2 Brandon Shell out, Ryan Van DeMark in - Shell retired Bubble guys: Kyle Allen, Justin Shorter, David Quessenbury, Baylon Spector, Cam Lewis Updates prior Preseason Game 3 Pushing for a spot: Cam Cline, Kingsley Jonathan, Andy Isabella Bubble guys: Baylon Spector, Cam Lewis, Shaq Lawson, Damien Harris, Khalil Shakir Trade candidates: Epenesa, Basham, other DE's if a team is willing to pay something. Shakir. I think Beane will be exploring anything if someone is will to provide a pick or possbly a backup tackle. Updates prior Final Cuts Klein in, Spector out..he could be season IR or a roster gymnastics guy to get him to in season IR. Want to find a way to keep Isabella....maybe over Lawson....I think they will weigth chances of guys getting poached, needs etc. I can see them keeping 7 WR's but putting Shakir on IR QB 2 Allen, Allen RB 4 Cook, Harris, Murray, Gilliam TE 3 Knox, Kincaid, Sternberger Morris WR 6 Diggs, Davis, Harty, Shakir, Sherfield, Shorter OT 4 Dawkins, Brown, Quessenbury, Shell Van DeMark OG 3 Torrence, McGovern, Edwards, Boettger C 2 Morse, Bates DT 5 Jones, Ford, Oliver, Phillips, Settle DE 5. Epenesa, Floyd, Lawson, Rousseau, Basham LB 6 Bernard, Milano, D Williams, Spector, Dodson, Matekavich, Klein CB 7 Elam, Jackson, T Johnson, Neal, White, Benford, Lewis S 4 Poyer, Hyde, Rapp, Hamlin K 1 Bass H 1 Ferguson P 1 Martin PUP Miller Lets refine this. If you are game, you can make one change to the above list. Copy, paste edit your guy, cross out the guy I kept and put in your guy bolded. Then someone can make a further edit. Each person can make one edit and anyone added (bolded) cannot be removed. Here are the key guys I have as not making it and prime candidates for the PS. QB 1 Barkley (Emergency QB) RB 1 Evans TE 1 Sternberger WR 2 Isabella, Shavers OT 2 Anderson, Doyle OG 3 Mancz, Broeker, Boettger C 0 DT 1 Ankou DE 2 Jonathan, Ray, LB 1 Klein CB 2 Austin, Ingram S 1 Marlowe Edited August 28, 2023 by Matt_In_NH 2 1 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 I am pretty convinced Gilliam makes it. 4 9 Quote
mrags Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 I think this list is pretty close to accurate. I think I’d put Morris on there instead of Sternberger. Just think they really like him and his familiarity with the team. Also think Gillaim makes it. He’s a 4th RB, FB, and TE all in one. Not saying I think they need him but I think they like him. If they keep Sternberger they will keep Gilliam. If they keep Morris then maybe not. 3 1 Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 IMO zero chance sternburgers makes it over morris 1 7 1 Quote
Airseven Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Not bad. But cut Sternberger, Hamlin, and Phillips and reconsider your PS options, including Gilliam. 1 Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Just now, Airseven said: Not bad. But cut Sternberger, Hamlin, and Phillips and reconsider your PS options, including Gilliam. 3 safeties plus cam lewis? idk Quote
Chandler#81 Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Nothing anyone hasn’t pretty much figured out. This, even before we play a preseason game. We don’t want injuries to the players we want to keep, so let the scrubs play all 3 games. 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 I think Isabella makes the 53 2 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Here is how I see the 53....actually 54 with Miller on PUP. I think the Bills will trade one or two guys...I have Sternberger over Morris as a surprise. I have Basham and Gilliam not making it. Based on reports I considered Shavers over Shorter but Beane likes his draft picks under 4 year contracts. QB 2 Allen, Allen RB 3 Cook, Harris, Murray TE 3 Knox, Kincaid, Sternberger WR 6 Diggs, Davis, Harty, Shakir, Sherfield, Shorter OT 4 Dawkins, Brown, Quessenbury, Shell OG 4 Torrence, McGovern, Edwards, Boettger C 2 Morse, Bates DT 5 Jones, Ford, Oliver, Phillips, Settle DE 4 Epenesa, Floyd, Lawson, Rousseau LB 6 Bernard, Milano, D Williams, Spector, Dodson, Matekavich CB 7 Elam, Jackson, T Johnson, Neal, White, Benford, Lewis S 4 Poyer, Hyde, Rapp, Hamlin K 1 Bass H 1 Ferguson P 1 Martin PUP Miller Here are the key guys I have as not making it and prime candidates for the PS. Some of the key cuts are underlined. This years draft picks are italicized. I suspect Gilliam will actually make it. QB 1 Barkley (Emergency QB) RB 2 Evans, Gilliam TE 1 Morris WR 2 Isabella, Shavers OT 2 Anderson, Doyle, OG 2 Mancz, Broeker C 0 DT 1 Ankou DE 3 Jonathan, Ray, Basham LB 1 Klein CB 2 Austin, Ingram S 1 Marlowe Not bad. I don't think Kyle Allen has done anything to claim a roster spot over Barkley. If anything, to the contrary. Hard to say, but the reports I've heard are that Morris is killing it over Sternberger. Morris getting shots with the 1's. I don't think Morris gets cut for Sternberger. Also they love Gilliam for his ST work as well as his positional flexibility from FB to TE to receiving TE. So unless Stermberger is putting some really surprising play at the end of preseason, it's Gilliam and Morris. 1 Quote
Success Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 It would be SO cool if Bernard panned out, and turned into a legit starter and playmaker. Every time I read an update or article about him, "good instincts" are always mentioned. Gotta love that quality in a MLB. 1 Quote
SoCal Deek Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 There are many on here that know better than me. How does this list look compared to previous years, position by position. For example…10 offensive linemen? Has that been the norm? Quote
Beck Water Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, mrags said: I think this list is pretty close to accurate. I think I’d put Morris on there instead of Sternberger. Just think they really like him and his familiarity with the team. Also think Gillaim makes it. He’s a 4th RB, FB, and TE all in one. Not saying I think they need him but I think they like him. If they keep Sternberger they will keep Gilliam. If they keep Morris then maybe not. Well, also at least as far as reports that are coming out, Morris and Gilliam are getting some time with the 1s and playing well. Also, I know some fans don't want to think about keeping players for ST, but both Morris and Gilliam have been core STers the last couple years. Like >75% of the snaps. In a year where the Bills finally moved on from core STers Taiwan Jones, Jake Kumerow, and Jaquan Johnson, I don't see them ditching Gilliam and Morris as well. 2 Quote
Special K Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 I might be wrong, but I can't see them keeping 6 LB's and only 4 DE's. 1 Quote
Airseven Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said: 3 safeties plus cam lewis? idk Not 3 safeties. I might keep Marlowe. Or peruse the cut heap at the end of August. 16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: There are many on here that know better than me. How does this list look compared to previous years, position by position. For example…10 offensive linemen? Has that been the norm? Not the norm. And good point. Boettger could get axed from this projection. Edited August 8, 2023 by Airseven Quote
wppete Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Pretty everyone you have on the PS roster will get snatched up really quick. I suspect Beane makes a lot of trades before the the offseason. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 (edited) I got your €%#¥ing 53 man roster right here! * Sorry, thought this was the Gang Green forum. Edited August 8, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1 1 Quote
SoMAn Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: I think Isabella makes the 53 Agree. I think Isabella, Gilliam, and Klein all make the team unless veteran salaries get them cut in favor of cheap rookies/2nd year players. A lot can happen between now and Sept 11, and it's entirely possible an injury or two to any of the other 53 named could make way for these three. I think the slot receiver position is over-loaded, so could Shakir be odd man out? Traded for low draft pick? Calling Brian Dabol. Does Matakavich make it based on teams? Will Dodson show he's worthy with impressive play in preseason games or will Spector live up to some of his early hype? Of the 53, it's pretty easy to pick 45 or so. We'll have our answers for the others in about 3 weeks. 1 1 Quote
Irv Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 Looks good. I think Basham would get plucked off the PS very quickly. Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 8, 2023 Posted August 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Irv said: Looks good. I think Basham would get plucked off the PS very quickly. Agreed. He's as good as gone if he goes to the PS Quote
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