Aaron Schatz picks the Bills and 49ers in the Super Bowl

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

23 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

(Aaron Schatz of Football Outsiders)

 

 

Some of us keep our receipts.  This is what Schatz had to say about Allen after the draft:

 

"A parody of an NFL quarterback prospect, Allen was abysmal in 2017 en route to not even making an all-Mountain West team. We don't want to say there's absolutely no chance he'll ever be good – he's got a deep ball, he's got some ability to make plays on the run and under pressure – but there is zero empirical evidence to support him becoming a reasonable NFL starting quarterback. And if you thought the excuses for his supporting cast were bad in Wyoming, wait till you see this Bills offense. ... Allen is the battleground that old scouts are going to die on, whether they're right about it or, as all evidence suggests, wrong about it."

 

Plus of course the comment "I would rather have Tyrod Taylor quarterbacking my team over the next four years than Josh Allen."

 

I gained some respect for Sal Capaccio after one twitter exchange where Schatz tried to white-wash his post-draft take as saying "I said he had a chance to be good" and Sal said "you called him a parody of an NFL quarterback prospect and said there was zero evidence to support him becoming a reasonable starting quarterback"

 

As for the old scouts, I would say they're not dead yet, so don't sleep on them.

 

I don't think any of Schatz pre-draft takes are really wrong. Allen is just THAT unique and special as a QB. I really can't think of a comparable QB. Maybe 30 years ago with Favre out of Southern Mississippi? But Favre was 2nd round pick compared to Allen being top 10. 

 

The most recent comps before Allen were guys like Paxton Lynch and Jake Locker. Now we will see how guys like Richardson and Will Levis translate to the next level. 

[bigK14094]

12 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Aaron is a surprisingly accurate guy when it comes to such things. Considering all the bashing the National Media has done to the Bills about their window closed it’s nice to get at least a little good news. 

Ahhh, this is opinion, not news.

[Beck Water]

7 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

I don't think any of Schatz pre-draft takes are really wrong. Allen is just THAT unique and special as a QB. I really can't think of a comparable QB. Maybe 30 years ago with Favre out of Southern Mississippi? But Favre was 2nd round pick compared to Allen being top 10. 

 

The most recent comps before Allen were guys like Paxton Lynch and Jake Locker. Now we will see how guys like Richardson and Will Levis translate to the next level. 

 

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but when you call a guy "a parody of an NFL quarterback prospect" and use the words "zero" and "all", any evidence at all that the guy isn't a "parody" and any single piece of evidence supporting that he has a chance, make you wrong.

[Captain Hindsight]

11 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

49ers have one of the worst QB situations in the NFL. 

 

Bills Dallas version 3.0 is my prediction 

Kyle Shannahan could probably install the best HS QB in SF in his offense and win.

 

That dude is an incredible coach. Bills hired Rex Ryan instead of him 

[78thealltimegreat]

50 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

Ahhh, this is opinion, not news.

Well it shows that some people who follow the NFL still hold the Bills in high regard despite what the rest of the sports news says. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

1 hour ago, Beck Water said:

 

Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but when you call a guy "a parody of an NFL quarterback prospect" and use the words "zero" and "all", any evidence at all that the guy isn't a "parody" and any single piece of evidence supporting that he has a chance, make you wrong.

always take the words zero and all with a grain of salt. There are always exceptions to every rule. We know that.
 

Schatz uses those words to drive home, his larger point or big picture view on Allen before the draft. And it’s that larger point and the big picture view that I agree with.

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

Bills vs Browns in the afc title fame, Vikings vs Lions in the nfc title game, the earth explodes the next day. 

1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

I don't think any of Schatz pre-draft takes are really wrong. Allen is just THAT unique and special as a QB. I really can't think of a comparable QB. Maybe 30 years ago with Favre out of Southern Mississippi? But Favre was 2nd round pick compared to Allen being top 10. 

 

The most recent comps before Allen were guys like Paxton Lynch and Jake Locker. Now we will see how guys like Richardson and Will Levis translate to the next level. 

Yup. Guess what? The next next sub 60% passer who didn’t 1st or 2nd team Mountain West conference will be doubted just as much as Allen. 
 

the bills did a great job at developing a truly special unicorn. Both the team and Allen deserve all the credit but Allen is the exception rather than the norm.

[Simon Says]

14 hours ago, PauleeeWalnuts said:

I really want people to stop picking the Bills entirely. They tend to not live up to others expectations of them, so I’d rather them stay a bit under the radar since being pressured makes them fold under it. 

That is ridiculous. Next you will tell us how you don't step on sidewalk cracks and avoid black cats.

[34-78-83]

13 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Bills - Lions

 

 

Its the only way this ends.  

wait, what about Bills vs Vikings? (0-4 vs 0-4 in Super Bowls)  😀

 

... looks like @Limeaid already got that

Edited August 8, 2023 by 34-78-83

[Ya Digg?]

13 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

49ers have one of the worst QB situations in the NFL. 

 

Bills Dallas version 3.0 is my prediction 

Does that mean Dak would be #3 on the top 100 list next year?!

[HOUSE]

Sorry guys, I don't want to hear one word about a Supetbowl

I will kill you 

[Nextmanup]

What?  Schatz has us in the Super Bowl?

 

Obviously this is quality analysis from a quality analyst.

 

Now, had he had us 9th in the AFC, I think I would have had to have changed my opinion of him....

 

 

[KingBoots8]

15 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Bills - Lions

 

 

Its the only way this ends.  

Think it would have to be Bills - Vikings. Someone finally gets theirs, the other goes 0-5. Ultimate victory, ultimate defeat.

[Big Blitz]

2 hours ago, 34-78-83 said:

wait, what about Bills vs Vikings? (0-4 vs 0-4 in Super Bowls)  😀

 

... looks like @Limeaid already got that

 

Ralph was from Detroit.

[34-78-83]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Ralph was from Detroit.

Yes, he was.

[balln]

Don’t trust Goff at this stage to go win a poor weather cold game / or make enough off script plays in crunch time.

 

lions would need home field advantage 

[TheCockSportif]

Maybe it was already said (busy day for me today), but I just Schatz my pantz.

[BigDingus]

Ah, so this fabled matchup again...

 

At this point, I don't think the Bills will ever meet the Niners in the Super Bowl. Fate has determined it will never allow it to happen 😅

[boyst]

20 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Bills - Lions

 

 

Its the only way this ends.  

Per Alvin Mack they fought in the Punic Wars

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

20 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Bills - Lions

 

 

Its the only way this ends.  

that. would be very cool, indeed.