Training Camp - 8/7 - 9:45am

[78thealltimegreat]

I have couple friends of mine who are diehard fins fans and they really where upset when the Bills signed Sherfield and I really couldn’t figure out why being he was mostly special teams and kinda their 4th receiver…after hearing these training camp reports I can see why dude can play. 

[Airseven]

33 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

You know, I forgot all about Shaq Lawson. Bills bring 9, or at most 10 DL into the year. 

Miller (PUP?)

Groot

Floyd

AJE

Lawson

Basham

Oliver

Jones

Ford

Phillips

Settle

 

There’s no room for all of them, at least one should be a trade candidate and for that I nominate Basham. Even when he lines up inside to pass rush I don’t see much that moves the needle. Last year he was clearly outplayed by Lawson. Unless he’s taken major steps thus far in camp (and nothing I read leads me to believe he has), get whatever you can get for him and move on.

 

Assume Rousseau, Floyd, Oliver, Jones are starters. Ford + Settle rotate inside. Epenesa + Lawson rotate outside. I agree - shop Basham. Perhaps still young and versatile enough to have 5th-6th round value to somebody. Cut Phillips as he's the largest cap savings of the fringe group. Miller to PUP. That's eight. 

 

I've liked Ankou in limited action, but don't see a path forward for him. Assume he'll go the way of Bryant who, of course, I also liked. 

[JDubya76]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

God forbid if Allen goes down, the Bills should call Fitzpatrick or Brady. 

 

Looking at the available back-ups, unfortunately a 90-year old Tom Brady is still the best option. Don’t think anyone else left on that “best of the rest” list is going to steal you 2 out of three games. If JA17 is out 4 or more games we’re done anyway. Like, start prepping for the draft, done.

[BillsGuyInMalta]

9 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I have couple friends of mine who are diehard fins fans and they really where upset when the Bills signed Sherfield and I really couldn’t figure out why being he was mostly special teams and kinda their 4th receiver…after hearing these training camp reports I can see why dude can play. 

 

If I remember correctly there was a lot of Dolphin players who reacted negatively when he signed with the Bills too.  They most definitely didn't want to see him go elsewhere, let alone to a division rival.

[ChevyVanMiller]

3 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

 

 

I’d be willing to kick the tires on Brady for backup QB, on a team-friendly, vet minimum type of deal.

 

😀

[78thealltimegreat]

8 minutes ago, BillsGuyInMalta said:

 

If I remember correctly there was a lot of Dolphin players who reacted negatively when he signed with the Bills too.  They most definitely didn't want to see him go elsewhere, let alone to a division rival.

Yeh apparently so. I thought he was more a special teams signing for Beane but this guy is a legit 3rd or 4th option. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

One update from Matt Parrino:

 

 

 

A couple more:

 

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It was a very physical practice today. They started with run-heavy team period and then we're going the length of the field - really competing. 

Kaiir Elam and Trent Sherfield got into a shoving match in 1v1s.

Then later it was Spencer Brown involved in a few dust ups. One was with Tyrel Dodson as the two pushed each other and then ripped off one another's helmet. Ryan Bates and Dodson had some words at one point also.

One of the best catches of the day came from KeeSean Johnson, going up an invisible ladder to one-hand a throw from Matt Barkley.

 

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Christian Benford recorded ANOTHER INTERCEPTION!

Kyle Allen is going to be seeing no. 47 in his nightmares. Allen was trying to fit in a tight window throw to Justin Shorter, but Benford jumped in front and picked it off while rolling to the turf.

Spencer Brown was extremely physical in the run game today. I thought it was his best practice of camp and maybe that's why he was getting into it with folks. He set the tone. Ryan Bates started at RG but Torrence came in for the full field team drills. On one early rep, Bates missed his block and left Josh Allen wide open to the rush. QB got rid of it fast and stayed upright.

 

[Special K]

7 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

I’d be willing to kick the tires on Brady for backup QB, on a team-friendly, vet minimum type of deal.

 

😀

 

I know you are just kidding, but it would be really funny to see Brady standing on the sidelines with a clipboard in hand....no way his over-inflated ego would ever let him be a backup anywhere.

[Warriorspikes51]

31 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I have couple friends of mine who are diehard fins fans and they really where upset when the Bills signed Sherfield and I really couldn’t figure out why being he was mostly special teams and kinda their 4th receiver…after hearing these training camp reports I can see why dude can play. 

As far as their prominence in the offense for receiving targets, this seems reasonable:

Diggs
Davis
Kincaid

Knox / Sherfield / Harty / Shakir  =  all mixed in 

 

Shorter / Isabella / Shavers  = would need to unseat Shakir's active gameday spot as WR5

As of now, I'd see Sherfield as WR3 but likely 5th in actual receiving targets. 

I guess Sherfield could play his way into being above Knox and splitting slot time with Kincaid in 3 Wide sets 

 

Edited August 7, 2023 by Warriorspikes51

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Hmmmmmm......

 

Training camp where you sleep in a dorm without a wife/gf for a few weeks.

 

Right wrist injury.  

 

Hmmmmmm.....

Everyone knows that you use your left to mimic what a woman (or man) would do.  Sheeesh

39 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I have couple friends of mine who are diehard fins fans and they really where upset when the Bills signed Sherfield and I really couldn’t figure out why being he was mostly special teams and kinda their 4th receiver…after hearing these training camp reports I can see why dude can play. 

They have no clue.  He’s obviously this years version of Tavon Austin!  

Edited August 7, 2023 by NewEra

[26TrapDraw]

3 hours ago, The Wiz said:

 

 

Now we are reporting when our QB drops a deuce?! Super Stardom is Fantastic.

Edit: Bangarang beat me too it.

Edited August 7, 2023 by BeefCurtns

[The Jokeman]

54 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Shorter is a lock for the 53

Assuming he can contribute on ST. To me he's a borderline WR6 right now behind Diggs, Davis, Harty, Sherfield and Shakir. 

[uninja]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Outside of Kincaid, I feel like I'm hearing Sherfield's name every day from camp.  I wonder if he doesn't end up being our number 3 and end up with 5+ TD's this season

 

He was the WR3 (at least looking at yardage) in MIA last year and felt like I heard his name called a lot when I watched MIA games. Guy was just always open if a team had planned well for Waddle and Tyreek.

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Assuming he can contribute on ST. To me he's a borderline WR6 right now behind Diggs, Davis, Harty, Sherfield and Shakir. 

 

He also would take a $323k dead cap hit if cut.  He makes the team unless he plays extremely poorly through the camp/preseason.

It's those 6 and the real battle is for PS spots.

[stevewin]

3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Allen is getting dinged up quite a bit in training camp when he is not supposed to be touched.  The backup QB situation better get fixed quick

 

They should be fighting daily imo

 

The days I went last week one thing you couldn't say was that Elam was not competing - dude was working out there

[syhuang]

 

 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

A couple more:

 

 

 

 

One more:

 

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Dorian Williams looking more comfortable by the day - had his best practice today, fitting a gap & made a nice run stop and then sacked Josh Allen during late team period. The more football he plays/time he gets in the defense is allowing him to play faster and it's evident. I'm wondering if we don't see him in some special looks in season.
Tyrell Shavers vs. Alex Austin was great today. They were battling and Austin had a great pass breakup and then Shavers made a concentration catch after tipped pass!

 

[The Wiz]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Hmmmmmm......

 

Training camp where you sleep in a dorm without a wife/gf for a few weeks.

 

Right wrist injury.  

 

Hmmmmmm.....

 

37 minutes ago, syhuang said:

 

 

Couldn't even wait until after practice 😂

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

 

I know you are just kidding, but it would be really funny to see Brady standing on the sidelines with a clipboard in hand....no way his over-inflated ego would ever let him be a backup anywhere.

Rocking a weird jersey number because we refused to give up 12 😂

[JerseyBills]

2 hours ago, JayBaller10 said:

You know, I forgot all about Shaq Lawson. Bills bring 9, or at most 10 DL into the year. 

Miller (PUP?)

Groot

Floyd

AJE

Lawson

Basham

Oliver

Jones

Ford

Phillips

Settle

 

There’s no room for all of them, at least one should be a trade candidate and for that I nominate Basham. Even when he lines up inside to pass rush I don’t see much that moves the needle. Last year he was clearly outplayed by Lawson. Unless he’s taken major steps thus far in camp (and nothing I read leads me to believe he has), get whatever you can get for him and move on.

I'd agree but the way Beane talked about his performance late last year and McD praised him, plus his versatility and contract, idk if they're willing to take a day 3 pick

 

Edited August 7, 2023 by JerseyBills