Training Camp - 8/7 - 9:45am

[BigAl2526]

57 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

Does Basham give us anything Jonathan Kingsley or Shane Ray cannot? I was against the Wyatt Teller trade when it happened because I saw legitimate promise. I remember his first start against the Jets he played with his head on a swivel and I was impressed by his awareness and physicality. I get none of those promising moments from Basham. Unless those who have been in camp can say otherwise, I wouldn’t mind if Beane traded him for whatever he can get. Go into the season with Groot, Floyd, AJE, and one of Ray or Kingsley. If Miller doesn’t start the year on PUP, I’d go with 4 DEs and stash Ray/Kingsley on the practice squad.

I would guess that among Buffalo's DEs, Groot, Basham and Lawson ar the ones that can best move to defensive tackle on passing downs.  I doubt that Ray or Kingsley can do that.  Otherwise. there's not a lot separating them.

[BuffaloBillyG]

4 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

 

Sorry, but that is one ugly dog. Looks like Gabe dropped him on his face a few times.

[The Wiz]

 

[Beck Water]

 

So, Friday was in the Stadium, with 35,000 of Josh Allen's closest friends in attendence....

 

 

I wonder if on Friday, Allen was putting a bit more heat on his passes and that made them harder for the receivers to handle?  If so, either they gotta get used to it....or Allen has to lengthen his Frank Sinatra playlist pre-game.

 

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Sorry, but that is one ugly dog. Looks like Gabe dropped him on his face a few times.

 

Nonsense, he's adorable!

Edited August 7, 2023 by Beck Water

[Virgil]

Outside of Kincaid, I feel like I'm hearing Sherfield's name every day from camp.  I wonder if he doesn't end up being our number 3 and end up with 5+ TD's this season

Edited August 7, 2023 by Virgil

[The Wiz]

5 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Nonsense, he's adorable!

 

[Beck Water]

9 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I would guess that among Buffalo's DEs, Groot, Basham and Lawson ar the ones that can best move to defensive tackle on passing downs.  I doubt that Ray or Kingsley can do that.  Otherwise. there's not a lot separating them.

 

The thing about Ray is his injury history and long hiatus from the NFL make one wonder if he's a pre-season warrior.  Can he hold up?

 

Kingsley is a player who looks as though he's improving

 

I think the hope the Bills had when they drafted Basham was that he would be able to fill that play both inside and outside role that the Bills signed Quinton Jefferson to fill in 2020, only to see that possibility fade when Lotulelei opted out and the Bills were left scrambling to figure out who could play 1TDT.  So far I haven't seen that come to fruition with Basham as the Bills hoped.

 

Not sure on Lawson rotating inside - has he?  Groot can be a monster there, I know.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Beck Water

[The Wiz]

Hand or wrist for Dion.  Hopefully precautionary.

 

 

[Beck Water]

37 minutes ago, Beast said:

He returned to practice without pads. If it was anything serious he wouldn’t have returned to the field.

 

Apparently it's his right wrist.  That's an easy thing to brace up and send the guy back out to practice, but linemen critically depend on their wrists and hands so it can be seriously impairing (for a guy who doesn't need to be impaired).

 

Let's hope it's just precautionary and heals quickly.

 

 

Also, Dawkins calves 👀.  I've seen 9 month baby bumps that looked smaller.  Guy doesn't skip leg day.

[eball]

20 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

Do we really cut many 5th round picks?

 

I may have reacted a bit quickly.  I forgot that one of Shorter’s “pluses” is that he’s a great ST player.  That could be his path onto this year’s team while he develops as a receiver.

 

11 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I feel like I'm hearing Sheffield's name

 

Gary?

 

[GoBills808]

18 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Sorry, but that is one ugly dog. Looks like Gabe dropped him on his face a few times.

Looks like French bulldog brindle coloring

 

Very popular breed in the US rn

[muppy]

16 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

So, Friday was in the Stadium, with 35,000 of Josh Allen's closest friends in attendence....

 

 

I wonder if on Friday, Allen was putting a bit more heat on his passes and that made them harder for the receivers to handle?  If so, either they gotta get used to it....or Allen has to lengthen his Frank Sinatra playlist pre-game.

 

 

Nonsense, he's adorable!

hey Beck  I am in total solidarity with you embracing Ghost as your avatar.  Sincerely Snoopette aka muppy

 

He is total gray brindle frenchie  eye candy 🤩

😉

 

 

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

Looks like French bulldog brindle coloring

 

Very popular breed in the US rn

you beat me to it!

 

exactamundo YEP

[JerseyBills]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'm pretty sure they can get Isabella onto the PS. Shorter is making the team. Beane even said after the pick that they see him earning a jersey on GameDay based on ST ability alone. 

Forreal.  Shorter is our Davis replacement if he progresses

[The Wiz]

 

[Virgil]

11 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Gary?

 

 

Damn it

[Brand J]

24 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

I would guess that among Buffalo's DEs, Groot, Basham and Lawson ar the ones that can best move to defensive tackle on passing downs.  I doubt that Ray or Kingsley can do that.  Otherwise. there's not a lot separating them.

You know, I forgot all about Shaq Lawson. Bills bring 9, or at most 10 DL into the year. 

Miller (PUP?)

Groot

Floyd

AJE

Lawson

Basham

Oliver

Jones

Ford

Phillips

Settle

 

There’s no room for all of them, at least one should be a trade candidate and for that I nominate Basham. Even when he lines up inside to pass rush I don’t see much that moves the needle. Last year he was clearly outplayed by Lawson. Unless he’s taken major steps thus far in camp (and nothing I read leads me to believe he has), get whatever you can get for him and move on.

[Royale with Cheese]

17 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Hand or wrist for Dion.  Hopefully precautionary.

 

 

 

Hmmmmmm......

 

Training camp where you sleep in a dorm without a wife/gf for a few weeks.

 

Right wrist injury.  

 

Hmmmmmm.....

[Coach Tuesday]

14 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

You know, I forgot all about Shaq Lawson. Bills bring 9, or at most 10 DL into the year. 

Miller (PUP?)

Groot

Floyd

AJE

Lawson

Basham

Oliver

Jones

Ford

Phillips

Settle

 

There’s no room for all of them, at least one should be a trade candidate and for that I nominate Basham. Even when he lines up inside to pass rush I don’t see much that moves the needle. Last year he was clearly outplayed by Lawson. Unless he’s taken major steps thus far in camp (and nothing I read leads me to believe he has), get whatever you can get for him and move on.

So is Basham the next Teller?  

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Shorter is a lock for the 53

[ColoradoBills]

17 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

You know, I forgot all about Shaq Lawson. Bills bring 9, or at most 10 DL into the year. 

Miller (PUP?)

Groot

Floyd

AJE

Lawson

Basham

Oliver

Jones

Ford

Phillips

Settle

 

There’s no room for all of them, at least one should be a trade candidate and for that I nominate Basham. Even when he lines up inside to pass rush I don’t see much that moves the needle. Last year he was clearly outplayed by Lawson. Unless he’s taken major steps thus far in camp (and nothing I read leads me to believe he has), get whatever you can get for him and move on.

 

It's all about Von and the PUP status.  I can't see Von being ready for the Jets.  So, when is he realistically expected to be back?

The only other game I'd like to see him in for during the first 6 weeks is the Miami game in Week 4.  The early schedule is set up pretty good

to let him recover fully.

 

I say keep Von on PUP for 6 weeks and get him 100%.  Keeping the other 10 gives flexibility against injury and a decision can be made then.

Who knows after 6 weeks what team could be hurting on DL and the possible trade value could increase.