Training Camp - 8/7 - 9:45am

[Beck Water]

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

Dawkins got hurt today, so there's that

[NewEra]

54 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

All of those players are likely upgrades from the current backups.  I'd take Matt Ryan or Bridgewater 

Wow weird, doesn't feel that way. Thanks for the info 

It feels that way to most everyone else

[Dablitzkrieg]

 

 

[Starr Almighty]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

How many 2nd team edge players get 9 sacks in a season? That seems a tad unreasonable. If you're basing his season success solely on sacks (say that out loud 3times), 6.5 for a backup edge player is actually quite good. 

I agree. But I'm hoping he's playing so well he gets more time on the field.  Sorry I didn't really elaborate on that.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

 

 

 

Micah Hyde is a big believer in "speaking things into existence", for example with regard to INTs

 

Wonder if that's what McD is trying here with Shakir, Bernard, and the backup QBs

 

2 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

 

 

 

This is NOT good news on either part, but Allen sounds like maybe precautionary and prudent since he came back and threw.

 

Dawkins, Not Good.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Beck Water

[boco357]

After reading todays report and injuries get ready for Matt Barkley show on Saturday.  Vegas also lists Colts as 2.5 favorites so I doubt many guys are going to play.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

 

 

 

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, boco357 said:

After reading todays report and injuries get ready for Matt Barkley show on Saturday.  Vegas also lists Colts as 2.5 favorites so I doubt many guys are going to play.

 

The Bills could lose every preseason game in a blowout, and I wouldn't care. Just get through these games with no major injuries. 

[Starr Almighty]

 

[eball]

10 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Actually I got Duke Williams flashbacks when I watched him in person Friday.    He's a tank with massive arms pumping and high effort.......but he's not quick or fast and can't separate in tight coverage so he will not be difficult at all to cover.   He would need to be DeAndre Hopkins-esque at the catch point to be really good, I'd think.   

 

Duke Williams update......he had a rough game this week for Hamilton.   Zero catches in yet another loss.  

 

No way Shorter makes the 53…PS fodder fo’ sho.

[Royale with Cheese]

6 minutes ago, boco357 said:

After reading todays report and injuries get ready for Matt Barkley show on Saturday.  Vegas also lists Colts as 2.5 favorites so I doubt many guys are going to play.

 

I was 41 years old when I found out NFL preseason games have betting lines.

[BADOLBILZ]

1 minute ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

 

 

 

 

Might be a couple guys who have reached the point in their careers where they need to prepare differently in the offseason and put in a little more work on maintenance/self-preservation in season to feel good and recover better.    The "you can't tear fat" philosophy that Josh talked about on Bussin' is a little too open ended, IMO.   Less golf, more stretching perhaps.   And Dion........I mean.......if he were to have gotten himself into fighting shape the past two offseasons he might have played better and gotten his deal extended.   Too good of an athlete to have let himself decline like he did last season.  Now AJ Epenesa is throwing him around in practice.

[boco357]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I was 41 years old when I found out NFL preseason games have betting lines.

Jimmy Walker made a killing on CFL games, there must be someone that makes a living off preseason games.

[BuffaloBillyG]

9 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

I agree. But I'm hoping he's playing so well he gets more time on the field.  Sorry I didn't really elaborate on that.

Fair enough. But that's a deep room IMO. And when Miller comes back between him, Groot and Floyd there aren't going to likely be many DE snaps available. It's a good problem to have. 

[The Wiz]

24 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

My understanding is the Bills rules for media access during practice is that they're not allowed to tweet live during the practice.

 

I wonder if those rules don't apply during training camp, or, is O'Halloran going to get a trip to the woodshed from the Bills?

I thought it was the specific details that they weren't allowed to tweet.  Stating who's playing where in a specific rep (Torrance lining up at RG for 1st team vs Allen hits diggs over the middle).

I don't know if it's because it's a different voice/person but man, put Bobby Babich in front of a mic more often because I love his energy.

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

4 minutes ago, eball said:

 

No way Shorter makes the 53…PS fodder fo’ sho.

 

 

Yeah he's definitely not a lock but there isn't a lot of competition.    Hurts him that they don't have a Mitch Trubisky type to throw to him in preseason games.   Kyle Allen has been far worse than expected, it seems. 

 

[Brand J]

Does Basham give us anything Jonathan Kingsley or Shane Ray cannot? I was against the Wyatt Teller trade when it happened because I saw legitimate promise. I remember his first start against the Jets he played with his head on a swivel and I was impressed by his awareness and physicality. I get none of those promising moments from Basham. Unless those who have been in camp can say otherwise, I wouldn’t mind if Beane traded him for whatever he can get. Go into the season with Groot, Floyd, AJE, and one of Ray or Kingsley. If Miller doesn’t start the year on PUP, I’d go with 4 DEs and stash Ray/Kingsley on the practice squad.

[HiMark]

20 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

How many 2nd team edge players get 9 sacks in a season? That seems a tad unreasonable. If you're basing his season success solely on sacks (say that out loud 3times), 6.5 for a backup edge player is actually quite good. 

2021: 37% snap rate, 330 snaps, 1.5 sacks

2022: 38% snap rate, 375 snaps, 6.5 sacks

I think you have a pretty good take here.

 

[Fleezoid]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

Josh just had to poop. No big deal

 

If I was the head athletic trainer, I woulda sent someone else with that task. 

Edited August 7, 2023 by Fleezoid