Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 https://www.bakersfield.com/news/sports-official-shortage-reaches-crisis-level/article_dfb87734-30be-11ee-b4c9-f70b7bafd39c.html I've debated becoming a High School football official for the last couple of years. This year I think I'm going to jump into the fire. Attend my first meeting tomorrow night, hopefully officiate an intersquad scrimmage later in the week and the following week is week 1 of the high school football season. A recent local news article (linked above) for my county reports that the shortage of high school football officials has reached "crisis levels." They only expect to have 40 officials, enough to make up only 8 of the five man officiating crews that are expected to officiate the 13 or 14 varsity football games each week. As a result, the number of games that will be played on a Thursday night is expected to jump from 36 last year to 59 this year. The article mentions that the shortage of officials is a nationwide problem. Curious if Buffalo is having the same shortage. It would appear the decrease in total number of kids playing football hasn't helped the official shortage. The shortage would only be relieved if High Schools started eliminating their football programs all together. Nobody really does it for the money as the article mentions the rate is about $67- $85 per game. For me I've just wanted to do it to give back to the game that I love, keep my mind sharp, and be a part of a team. Curious to know if any fellow forum members have current or past experience officiating at the high school level and what their thoughts are. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: https://www.bakersfield.com/news/sports-official-shortage-reaches-crisis-level/article_dfb87734-30be-11ee-b4c9-f70b7bafd39c.html I've debated becoming a High School football official for the last couple of years. This year I think I'm going to jump into the fire. Attend my first meeting tomorrow night, hopefully officiate an intersquad scrimmage later in the week and the following week is week 1 of the high school football season. A recent local news article (linked above) for my county reports that the shortage of high school football officials has reached "crisis levels." They only expect to have 40 officials, enough to make up only 8 of the five man officiating crews that are expected to officiate the 13 or 14 varsity football games each week. As a result, the number of games that will be played on a Thursday night is expected to jump from 36 last year to 59 this year. The article mentions that the shortage of officials is a nationwide problem. Curious if Buffalo is having the same shortage. It would appear the decrease in total number of kids playing football hasn't helped the official shortage. The shortage would only be relieved if High Schools started eliminating their football programs all together. Nobody really does it for the money as the article mentions the rate is about $67- $85 per game. For me I've just wanted to do it to give back to the game that I love, keep my mind sharp, and be a part of a team. Curious to know if any fellow forum members have current or past experience officiating at the high school level and what their thoughts are. There's a big shortage around where I live also. The Delaware officials association nearly went on strike over pay rates. Their argument was the 3 states surrounding Delaware all paid more and they could just take games there instead rather than in Delaware All sports are having big problems getting officials right now. The older guys are retiring, not as many younger people are getting into it, and a lot of people are quitting because of spectator/athlete/coach misconduct and abuse of officials. As you said it's not a lot of money. You do it because you like doing it and there's only so much crap people are willing to take. My kids are both athletes and I'd never advise that they get into officiating. I'm an athletic director, coach, and former official and I'd never officiate again. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Who wants to put up with the type of abuse officials at those levels get these days including physical confrontations now which are becoming more and more normal for basically no money? No thanks. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 We were “warned” at our football parent meeting the schedule could change due to this here in Virginia. Emphasized the money was a problem but the real issue is the players, coaches, and even parents. Getting disrespected from everywhere and everyone during games. And the number of ejections has skyrocketed. It’s absolutely embarrassing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reks Ryan Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I've debated becoming a High School football official for the last couple of years. This year I think I'm going to jump into the fire. Attend my first meeting tomorrow night, hopefully officiate an intersquad scrimmage later in the week and the following week is week 1 of the high school football season. Good for you. Is it really that little prep to become a certified HS official in California? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Sign of the times. It’s only going to get worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said: Good for you. Is it really that little prep to become a certified HS official in California? I believe it is quite a bit more typically. Their on-line schedule shows meetings and spring football scrimmages starting all the way back in May. But standards are loosened when in times of crisis. I’ll know more when I attend my first meeting tomorrow night. Maybe they will keep me off of games for a while until I get up to speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 I officiate hs soccer and have for the last 10 or so years. Money is not bad usually around $110 a game. The problem is the parents. No other way to put it. They think their kid is going pro no matter their actual skill level. They think you are out to get their kid and ruin his dreams. I have been approached coming off the field with a cell phone in my face even which is a pretty funny story. (If you want to hear it lmk) I will say though I generally don't have too much of a hard time. I don't listen to anything from the crowds and stay calm when talking w coaches. Don't be afraid to say you might have missed it just doing your best. After 10 years most coaches know me and know how I officiate. I am a spirit of the rule and not letter of the law kind of guy so I tend to let the kids play and only call what is necessary. Most of my board is retired guys and college kids. Im a rarity in my early 40s and there is only one other guy my age who does it. 8 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: I believe it is quite a bit more typically. Their on-line schedule shows meetings and spring football scrimmages starting all the way back in May. But standards are loosened when in times of crisis. I’ll know more when I attend my first meeting tomorrow night. Maybe they will keep me off of games for a while until I get up to speed. You will likely start as a probationary official which means you will do modified and some lower stress games (think very good team vs bad or 2 bad teams). There is no real way to do the job other than to do the job. Have fun with it though, guys that take it to serious suck to ref with and burn out quick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Same problem here in Illinois. I've noticed a lot of the officials they do have are old guys, when those guys age out, it'll get worse. Good for you for helping out. I've seen the same with umps in HS baseball. Games cancelled because no umps available, or having to play with only 1 ump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K D Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 To get $50-100 a pop for the abuse and stress, it's not worth it. Coaches, parents, players all treat you like crap. Miss a call and people literally want your head on a stake. I'm sure people could think of a million better things to do with their time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Went to a play-it-again sports to pick up some used cleats and the soccer bin was 50 times more full than the football bin. Looks like football is on the way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 They literally can’t pay officials enough money here in Vermont (I think they’re paying $85-90 per game plus mileage), and having been a varsity lacrosse coach for 9 years I completely understand why. State regulatory agencies, such as the Vermont Principals Association here in VT, need to implement state-wide zero tolerance policies for fans and and make sure they are enforced. How they handle it now is by giving a “bench misconduct” penalty to the home team and warn the fan(s). If it continues they can eject the fan, but I’ve only seen that happen once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) Some of the high school sections got rid of travel pay for refs. So you do not get reimbursed for gas. So its better in Rochester and Buffalo then the Southern Teir. Nonr of the refs from up north want to drive to rural areas for the same pay as one 5 mins down the road. We have the same 6 refs ref youth, modified, jv and varsity. They are working 6 days a week of games. They have asked me to join but I just cant Edited August 6, 2023 by Mr Wild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 So as others have said have fun. But in your meeting you will here the words don't coach just ref. I officiate soccer football and swimming of which 2 are over in laye fall and swimming goes till February with the boys season. With all of my sports here in Monroe County we as officials can remove people on the spot security is there and the parent or parents don't get a second chance. In swimming you just walk up and down the pool deck really easy. Judging diving is the hardest but the kids all have sayings for the scoring so you just have to laugh. Parents don't ever get in your face. But if your a dude and you are referring girls just don't stare in bad places. 3 of are officials can't go to a school because of that. And yes swimming is the highest paid job for referring. And yes we too only had 32 officials last year for swimming and need 3 per meet 4 of are meets had no officials at them which means the meet does not count and all times if qualified for sectionals are not valid. Soccer I always go to the far side of the field don't have to listen to it. In football I through the field look at the coach and say you shaw that and than I move on. FYI most coaches saw it before you did trust me they make the big seen to support there players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: To get $50-100 a pop for the abuse and stress, it's not worth it. Coaches, parents, players all treat you like crap. Miss a call and people literally want your head on a stake. I'm sure people could think of a million better things to do with their time Now add that they increasing resort to violence against officials and it has happened from many angles...parents, coaches and players increasingly almost to the point it's considered normal. Used to be that was unthinkable to do that but not anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Thought about reffing years ago. Friend of mine happened to be doing it and his advice was that he wouldn’t get into it anymore because of the abuse. Seems like it would be fun but who wants to be a target like that on a regular basis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Captain Hindsight Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: We were “warned” at our football parent meeting the schedule could change due to this here in Virginia. Emphasized the money was a problem but the real issue is the players, coaches, and even parents. Getting disrespected from everywhere and everyone during games. And the number of ejections has skyrocketed. It’s absolutely embarrassing. I always wanted to be a ref but talking with a few guys about the abuse from parents and multiple death threats they had received, I opted out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: I always wanted to be a ref but talking with a few guys about the abuse from parents and multiple death threats they had received, I opted out Yikes 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 I officiated for 7-ish years in the Buffalo area. Also did D3 college for a year. I enjoyed the officiating aspect. I plan to go back someday. It’s either an old man’s game or a young man’s game. I used to wonder why the average age of officials is so high. After having a family, you realize it really isn’t compatible. It’s a huge time commitment. You either have to do it while your kids are older, or while you don’t have kids. As others have said, if you can’t put up with abuse, this isn’t for you. I was former military and have thick skin to verbal abuse, so it was no problem for me. The worst abuse is at the little league level, as you go higher, the fans get farther away and the coaches actually get paid, so they don’t want to be ejected. The pay is not good, oftentimes can be comparable to minimum wage after factoring in gas. You get $60-$90 for a high school game. You arrive 1.5 hours early to have a pregame and the game lasts 2-2.5 hours. So you’re talking about $15 an hour not even including the gas cost. As someone else said, we didn’t get mileage. You get paid the same wether you are commuting 5 minutes or 45 minutes. I’ll end by rant by answering your initial question. Yes, Buffalo has a shortage like the rest of the country. But it is not as bad as many other places have it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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