Joe Klecko HOF - meh...

[I'm Spartacus]

Congrats to him, but for my money Fred Smerlas was better.

[I'm Spartacus]

PS, Fireman Ed is a tool!

[Freddie's Dead]

I'll never forget Jim Kelly's first game in the NFL.  I was in the upper deck on the home side.  Bills v Jest and the Bills were on the Jest 1 yard line.  Klecko deliberately comes out of his stance way early before the ball was snapped and just clobbered Kelly.  One of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen.  ***** Joe Klecko.  Good player, but not HOF worthy.

[RoyBatty is alive]

The Football HOF has gone from you had to be one of the greatest to now very good.  Ken Riley, sorry he doesnt belong either.

[Buffalo03]

  On 8/5/2023 at 6:23 PM, Freddie's Dead said:

I'll never forget Jim Kelly's first game in the NFL.  I was in the upper deck on the home side.  Bills v Jest and the Bills were on the Jest 1 yard line.  Klecko deliberately comes out of his stance way early before the ball was snapped and just clobbered Kelly.  One of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen.  ***** Joe Klecko.  Good player, but not HOF worthy.

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Klecko explained this in Jim Kelly's "A Football Life". He said Kelly was just talking all game and said something to Klecko he didn't like. There was another penalty right before that that moved the ball to the 1 yard line. Red Cashion the ref called the penalty and Klecko said "Red, how can you call that?" And Kelly looked at Klecko and said "oh, first name basis, huh?" And that was when Klecko thought "what a good time for 15 yard penalty. They're only gonna move the ball 6 inches" since they were already at the 1 yard line. To be fair, Kelly was a prick when he played. Not necessarily justifying that play. Just explaining it from how Klecko explained it

Edited August 5, 2023 by Buffalo03

[I'm Spartacus]

  On 8/5/2023 at 6:45 PM, Buffalo03 said:

Klecko explained this in Jim Kelly's "A Football Life". He said Kelly was just talking all game and said something to Klecko he didn't like. There was another penalty right before that that moved the ball to the 1 yard line. Red Cashion the ref called the penalty and Klecko said "Red, how can you call that?" And Kelly looked at Klecko and said "oh, first name basis, huh?" And that was when Klecko thought "what a good time for 15 yard penalty. They're only gonna move the ball 6 inches" since they were already at the 1 yard line. To be fair, Kelly was a prick when he played. Not necessarily justifying that play. Just explaining it from how Klecko explained it

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Wasn't Red Cashion the ref that did the famous "just give it to them"?

[Freddie's Dead]

  On 8/5/2023 at 6:52 PM, I'm Spartacus said:

Wasn't Red Cashion the ref that did the famous "just give it to them"?

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Red Cashion was " First dahhhnnnn!!!"

  On 8/5/2023 at 6:45 PM, Buffalo03 said:

Klecko explained this in Jim Kelly's "A Football Life". He said Kelly was just talking all game and said something to Klecko he didn't like. There was another penalty right before that that moved the ball to the 1 yard line. Red Cashion the ref called the penalty and Klecko said "Red, how can you call that?" And Kelly looked at Klecko and said "oh, first name basis, huh?" And that was when Klecko thought "what a good time for 15 yard penalty. They're only gonna move the ball 6 inches" since they were already at the 1 yard line. To be fair, Kelly was a prick when he played. Not necessarily justifying that play. Just explaining it from how Klecko explained it

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Nice story.  Doesn't change my opinion of Klecko one damn bit.

[Rico]

He did name-drop Joe D. 

[drummernut74]

He only made it because of his cameo appearance in The Cannonball Run 🤣

[whorlnut]

  On 8/5/2023 at 5:38 PM, I'm Spartacus said:

Congrats to him, but for my money Fred Smerlas was better.

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Honest question…if he wasn’t a jet would you care?  There are lots of fringe hall of famers in the hall at this point.

Edited August 5, 2023 by whorlnut

[Buffalo03]

  On 8/5/2023 at 6:52 PM, I'm Spartacus said:

Wasn't Red Cashion the ref that did the famous "just give it to them"?

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I don't believe so

[Sierra Foothills]

  On 8/5/2023 at 5:38 PM, I'm Spartacus said:

Congrats to him, but for my money Fred Smerlas was better.

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Disagree but neither is a HOFer.

 

  On 8/5/2023 at 6:45 PM, Buffalo03 said:

Klecko explained this in Jim Kelly's "A Football Life". He said Kelly was just talking all game and said something to Klecko he didn't like. There was another penalty right before that that moved the ball to the 1 yard line. Red Cashion the ref called the penalty and Klecko said "Red, how can you call that?" And Kelly looked at Klecko and said "oh, first name basis, huh?" And that was when Klecko thought "what a good time for 15 yard penalty. They're only gonna move the ball 6 inches" since they were already at the 1 yard line. To be fair, Kelly was a prick when he played. Not necessarily justifying that play. Just explaining it from how Klecko explained it

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[GreggTX]

Smells was great. Klelo was better.

[Sierra Foothills]

  On 8/6/2023 at 1:56 AM, GreggTX said:

Smells was great. Klelo was better.

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Translation anyone?

[4thandGoal]

  On 8/6/2023 at 3:30 AM, Sierra Foothills said:

Translation anyone?

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Smerlas was great - KLecko was better--- what else is there to translate

[Sierra Foothills]

  On 8/6/2023 at 4:02 AM, 4thandGoal said:

Smerlas was great - KLecko was better--- what else is there to translate

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Sorry. I never picked up that Pig Latin stuff.

 

Thanks Jimmy.

 

 

Edited August 6, 2023 by Sierra Foothills

[ExWNYer]

  On 8/6/2023 at 3:30 AM, Sierra Foothills said:

Translation anyone?

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He enjoys his own farts after drinking all day...

[Sierra Foothills]

  On 8/6/2023 at 4:15 AM, ExWNYer said:

 

He enjoys his own farts after drinking all day...

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Thank you.

 

 I thought it was just me.

 

 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

  On 8/5/2023 at 6:26 PM, RoyBatty is alive said:

The Football HOF has gone from you had to be one of the greatest to now very good.  Ken Riley, sorry he doesnt belong either.

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Neither did Zach Thomas

 

Yup becoming the Hall of the Very  Good. 

 

And I'd say the same thing about Tasker and Levy. Neither should be in the Hall of Fame. 

[QLBillsFan]

  On 8/6/2023 at 4:27 AM, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Neither did Zach Thomas

 

Yup becoming the Hall of the Very  Good. 

 

And I'd say the same thing about Tasker and Levy. Neither should be in the Hall of Fame. 

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Seriously Zach Thomas and Joe Klecko. Certainly Tasker is more worthy.. as well as Marv.