I'm Spartacus Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 Congrats to him, but for my money Fred Smerlas was better. 1 3 1 Quote
I'm Spartacus Posted August 5, 2023 Author Posted August 5, 2023 PS, Fireman Ed is a tool! 4 5 1 Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 I'll never forget Jim Kelly's first game in the NFL. I was in the upper deck on the home side. Bills v Jest and the Bills were on the Jest 1 yard line. Klecko deliberately comes out of his stance way early before the ball was snapped and just clobbered Kelly. One of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen. ***** Joe Klecko. Good player, but not HOF worthy. 4 1 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 The Football HOF has gone from you had to be one of the greatest to now very good. Ken Riley, sorry he doesnt belong either. 5 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'll never forget Jim Kelly's first game in the NFL. I was in the upper deck on the home side. Bills v Jest and the Bills were on the Jest 1 yard line. Klecko deliberately comes out of his stance way early before the ball was snapped and just clobbered Kelly. One of the dirtiest plays I've ever seen. ***** Joe Klecko. Good player, but not HOF worthy. Klecko explained this in Jim Kelly's "A Football Life". He said Kelly was just talking all game and said something to Klecko he didn't like. There was another penalty right before that that moved the ball to the 1 yard line. Red Cashion the ref called the penalty and Klecko said "Red, how can you call that?" And Kelly looked at Klecko and said "oh, first name basis, huh?" And that was when Klecko thought "what a good time for 15 yard penalty. They're only gonna move the ball 6 inches" since they were already at the 1 yard line. To be fair, Kelly was a prick when he played. Not necessarily justifying that play. Just explaining it from how Klecko explained it Edited August 5, 2023 by Buffalo03 7 3 Quote
I'm Spartacus Posted August 5, 2023 Author Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Klecko explained this in Jim Kelly's "A Football Life". He said Kelly was just talking all game and said something to Klecko he didn't like. There was another penalty right before that that moved the ball to the 1 yard line. Red Cashion the ref called the penalty and Klecko said "Red, how can you call that?" And Kelly looked at Klecko and said "oh, first name basis, huh?" And that was when Klecko thought "what a good time for 15 yard penalty. They're only gonna move the ball 6 inches" since they were already at the 1 yard line. To be fair, Kelly was a prick when he played. Not necessarily justifying that play. Just explaining it from how Klecko explained it Wasn't Red Cashion the ref that did the famous "just give it to them"? Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Wasn't Red Cashion the ref that did the famous "just give it to them"? Red Cashion was " First dahhhnnnn!!!" 16 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Klecko explained this in Jim Kelly's "A Football Life". He said Kelly was just talking all game and said something to Klecko he didn't like. There was another penalty right before that that moved the ball to the 1 yard line. Red Cashion the ref called the penalty and Klecko said "Red, how can you call that?" And Kelly looked at Klecko and said "oh, first name basis, huh?" And that was when Klecko thought "what a good time for 15 yard penalty. They're only gonna move the ball 6 inches" since they were already at the 1 yard line. To be fair, Kelly was a prick when he played. Not necessarily justifying that play. Just explaining it from how Klecko explained it Nice story. Doesn't change my opinion of Klecko one damn bit. 1 Quote
drummernut74 Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 He only made it because of his cameo appearance in The Cannonball Run 🤣 1 1 1 Quote
whorlnut Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said: Congrats to him, but for my money Fred Smerlas was better. Honest question…if he wasn’t a jet would you care? There are lots of fringe hall of famers in the hall at this point. Edited August 5, 2023 by whorlnut 1 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 3 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said: Wasn't Red Cashion the ref that did the famous "just give it to them"? I don't believe so Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted August 5, 2023 Posted August 5, 2023 4 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said: Congrats to him, but for my money Fred Smerlas was better. Disagree but neither is a HOFer. 3 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: Klecko explained this in Jim Kelly's "A Football Life". He said Kelly was just talking all game and said something to Klecko he didn't like. There was another penalty right before that that moved the ball to the 1 yard line. Red Cashion the ref called the penalty and Klecko said "Red, how can you call that?" And Kelly looked at Klecko and said "oh, first name basis, huh?" And that was when Klecko thought "what a good time for 15 yard penalty. They're only gonna move the ball 6 inches" since they were already at the 1 yard line. To be fair, Kelly was a prick when he played. Not necessarily justifying that play. Just explaining it from how Klecko explained it 3 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: Smells was great. Klelo was better. Translation anyone? 1 Quote
4thandGoal Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Translation anyone? Smerlas was great - KLecko was better--- what else is there to translate Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 4thandGoal said: Smerlas was great - KLecko was better--- what else is there to translate Sorry. I never picked up that Pig Latin stuff. Thanks Jimmy. Edited August 6, 2023 by Sierra Foothills Quote
ExWNYer Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 44 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Translation anyone? He enjoys his own farts after drinking all day... 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: He enjoys his own farts after drinking all day... Thank you. I thought it was just me. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 9 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: The Football HOF has gone from you had to be one of the greatest to now very good. Ken Riley, sorry he doesnt belong either. Neither did Zach Thomas Yup becoming the Hall of the Very Good. And I'd say the same thing about Tasker and Levy. Neither should be in the Hall of Fame. 2 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted August 6, 2023 Posted August 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Neither did Zach Thomas Yup becoming the Hall of the Very Good. And I'd say the same thing about Tasker and Levy. Neither should be in the Hall of Fame. Seriously Zach Thomas and Joe Klecko. Certainly Tasker is more worthy.. as well as Marv. 2 Quote
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