Spencer Brown Injury Concern

[Lost]

27 minutes ago, Dopey said:

Awesome coverage. A little granny and hampered Gabe’s right arm from reaching out. That’s not why we lost the game though. I guess we just excuse Josh’s 2 picks that game. 

 

The mustache is the reason we lost that game.

[CincyBillsFan]

33 minutes ago, Dopey said:

 

Awesome coverage. A little granny and hampered Gabe’s right arm from reaching out. That’s not why we lost the game though. I guess we just excuse Josh’s 2 picks that game. 

No one is ignoring Allen's 2 INT's they contributed to the loss.  But 2 INT's, against the D line & DB's that the Jets have is not a terrible thing.  Get back to me when Allen throws 3 or 4 INT's against the Jets.

 

If you expect Allen to play perfectly every game you're going to be disappointed.  The fact remains that the D allowed the Jet's to get back in the game with a 7 minute 75 yard TD drive right after Allen's run had put the Bills up 14 - 3.  Then later the D allowed the Jets to go on an epic 90 yard drive using up a big part of the 4th quarter to kick the game winning FG.  Then at the end Davis dropped a perfectly thrown ball from Allen that would have at minimum sent the game to OT.

 

You fixation on Allen's role here is disingenuous at best.

 

 

[goldenboy81]

9 hours ago, Herb Nightly said:

What if it is Shell? You think he is worse than  Brown?

I'll take Brown or Shell over Quessenberry. Doesn't mean much but I would

[Sierra Foothills]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

The report of him not being able to pick up his helmet was after practice on Thursday.  He played last night with no limitations.

 

One day's difference doesn't change the concern much in my eyes. There was also a separate report earlier in the week that after one play, Brown got up very slowly in a manner which suggested his back was the issue.

 

Until he proves otherwise there will be justifiable concern.

 

2 hours ago, eball said:

Perhaps I’m stating the obvious, but it’s Beane’s (and the director of pro personnel’s) job to be keeping an eye on waivers.

 

Absolutely. There's no doubt Beane is doing what he always does (even in his sleep).

 

I think it was after the Poona Ford signing in which Beane was quoted as saying something like "team building is a 365 day a year job."

 

If there are shortcomings in Beane's work, diligence is definitely not one of them.

 

His work ethic is legendary... he turned down a higher-paying job to accept an interrnship with Carolina. He was practically a ball boy when he started his NFL career.

 

 

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

One day's difference doesn't change the concern much in my eyes. There was also a separate report earlier in the week that after one play, Brown got up very slowly in a manner which suggested his back was the issue.

 

Until he proves otherwise there will be justifiable concern.

 

If he had been injured, much less significantly, they would not have had him even suit up.

[Sierra Foothills]

Just now, Doc said:

 

If he had been injured, much less significantly, they would not have had him even suit up.

 

That's true but last offseason he had lower back surgery and many of us, rightly or not, are still holding our breath about his health...due also to the fact that he's 6'8" and also to the general nature of back pain and injuries.

 

 

[Dopey]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

No one is ignoring Allen's 2 INT's they contributed to the loss.  But 2 INT's, against the D line & DB's that the Jets have is not a terrible thing.  Get back to me when Allen throws 3 or 4 INT's against the Jets.

 

If you expect Allen to play perfectly every game you're going to be disappointed.  The fact remains that the D allowed the Jet's to get back in the game with a 7 minute 75 yard TD drive right after Allen's run had put the Bills up 14 - 3.  Then later the D allowed the Jets to go on an epic 90 yard drive using up a big part of the 4th quarter to kick the game winning FG.  Then at the end Davis dropped a perfectly thrown ball from Allen that would have at minimum sent the game to OT.

 

You fixation on Allen's role here is disingenuous at best.

 

 

Yeah, that doesn’t sound like excusing Josh. At all. I don’t expect anyone to play perfectly every game. Somehow Josh’s mistakes get excused. “The line, the rbs, the wrs we’re at fault “. He’s the man when he plays well,but it’s someone else’s fault when he doesn’t. There’s no disingenuous fixation with Allen’s role in the loss, because it’s not just the Jets game. Let me guess, you’re one of those who claims Josh played well during the Cincy loss. He had a hand in the loss to Minn. Did you see the fumble return by the phins in the playoff game last year? He had the dump off pass set up perfectly to Singletary. Josh single-handedly almost handed them the game. All I read here was how Skyler almost beat us. No. Josh almost beat us. 
He’s my guy, but It’s ok to acknowledge he makes mistakes. It really is. 

[Doc]

38 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

That's true but last offseason he had lower back surgery and many of us, rightly or not, are still holding our breath about his health...due also to the fact that he's 6'8" and also to the general nature of back pain and injuries.

Totally agree. But they know that as well, and if there were any concerns, they wouldn’t have had him play at all.

[Big Turk]

44 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

That's true but last offseason he had lower back surgery and many of us, rightly or not, are still holding our breath about his health...due also to the fact that he's 6'8" and also to the general nature of back pain and injuries.

 

 

 

Yeah being 6'8" and needing to constantly bend like that and then have 300 lb defensive lineman and much quicker linebackers running into you full force is not conducive to players with weak backs.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Big Turk

[Matt_In_NH]

Did he play last night?

[Success]

I mean, could the 1st 5 or so pages of this thread be more hot takey and overreactive?

 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Doc said:

Totally agree. But they know that as well, and if there were any concerns, they wouldn’t have had him play at all.

If they aren’t concerned about RT and Browns back, than we’re likely in big trouble.  
 

both are major concerns- regardless of him practicing or being held out

18 minutes ago, Success said:

I mean, could the 1st 5 or so pages of this thread be more hot takey and overreactive?

 

When we see him play well, we can speculate that his play won’t drag our team down.  Until then, all we have to go off of is history. And his history sucks

[Success]

5 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

When we see him play well, we can speculate that his play won’t drag our team down.  Until then, all we have to go off of is history. And his history sucks

 

Okay. But that's not really what the 1st 5 pages of this thread are about.

 

The comments were over the top.

 

[benderbender]

 

 

[NewEra]

19 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Okay. But that's not really what the 1st 5 pages of this thread are about.

 

The comments were over the top.

 

Ok.  I made a few comments but didn’t really read much after that

[pennstate10]

11 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

The thing is, he hasn't been a terrible starting tackle every year. That's way overstating it. When healthy he's had some times when he was pretty damn solid.  And as a first year guy and a second-year guy with a back injury, particularly a guy with limited time in college, that's really good.

 

He's looked bad and he's looked good. Both. But he has had those time when he's been able to do the job pretty well.

 

If the injury doesn't hold him back it looks like he's got a really good chance to be good. If it does hold him back particularly in the long term, not so much.

 

 

 

 

Tom Hortons?

 

 

 

Tim’s lesser known older brother. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

40 minutes ago, benderbender said:

 

 

Not a shock.

 

I wanted him in the Draft.

 

Instead we took a 223 pound MLB.

 

Beane’s blind spot for Brown is hurting the team. 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Airseven]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

Okay. But that's not really what the 1st 5 pages of this thread are about.

 

The comments were over the top.

 

What’s your point? That he’s healthy or good?

[aristocrat]

This is nightmare scenario.but apparently he’s ok. 
 

https://twitter.com/jdidgeo/status/1687850096589930496?s=46&t=WfwBbfFkRiZZWCMxTdpkOw

[3rdand12]

6 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

No one is ignoring Allen's 2 INT's they contributed to the loss.  But 2 INT's, against the D line & DB's that the Jets have is not a terrible thing.  Get back to me when Allen throws 3 or 4 INT's against the Jets.

 

If you expect Allen to play perfectly every game you're going to be disappointed.  The fact remains that the D allowed the Jet's to get back in the game with a 7 minute 75 yard TD drive right after Allen's run had put the Bills up 14 - 3.  Then later the D allowed the Jets to go on an epic 90 yard drive using up a big part of the 4th quarter to kick the game winning FG.  Then at the end Davis dropped a perfectly thrown ball from Allen that would have at minimum sent the game to OT.

 

You fixation on Allen's role here is disingenuous at best.

 

 

Disagree

 An interception is a a game changer in most instances

 Two ?

You just cant do that and expect to win

4 hours ago, Success said:

I mean, could the 1st 5 or so pages of this thread be more hot takey and overreactive?

 

Yes !

4 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Josh sucked that game… his worst game since 2019 IMO, still you excusing Davis dropping a perfectly thrown bomb is “dopey” to say the least. 
 

You know it can be both things… Josh isn’t perfect and has his moments of bone headedness, but the good far, far, far outweighs the bad…. Not the case for Davis who has proven time and time and time again he isn’t a reliable #2.

in a Spencer Brown thread

You had to go there  😇