BarleyNY Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) thanks for the heads up on this @sullim4 sorry about the bait and switch you’re dealing with. nice job catching it right away. I’m sure that many don’t. Edited August 3, 2023 by BarleyNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Not sure if I’m down with the fat finger shaming in this thread…😉 But best of luck to the OP…👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metbill Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I feel the same about tickets; rather pay a bit more to have them in hand early and have a concrete plan in place for the weekend as I am 17 hours away. That being said, I use SeatGeek and pay on my Amex. If any issues arise, AMEX is great for getting disputes taken care of, and I have not had a bad experience with SeatGeek as of yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 12 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: I used TickPicK last year for nine seats at the Dec. Jets game and again this year for Tampa Bay. The last time I used StubHub I got the tickets hours before the game after some hassle. Never again. It is absolutely BS the way any of this Fee structure crap is allowed. Corporate Scalping 8 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Side note: Im unsure about Bills specifically, but the "GameTime" app has been my fav ticket vendor for a while now! I forget exactly how i did it, but i added tix to my cart, and then let it time out..... 24hrs later i had an email saying "oops u forgot" and it was like 20% off. i was buying them eiother way, just got distracted... these were for Hornets tickets and NC State game last year. cant speak on NFL Gametime and TickPick are my go to for tickets now. I prefer the app for Gametime and how it allows you to search for tickets. Anything I find that is interesting on Gametime I then look on TickPick. I can usually find the same tickets listed on TickPick also but for cheaper due to no fees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) CONSUMER REPORT Don't even bother to read the comment area, the people a whiners https://www.consumeraffairs.com/entertainment/stubhub.html Edited August 3, 2023 by HOUSE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I have also found stubhub has fallen big time for the service they use to provide unfortunately and I really do not use them much anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 15 hours ago, sullim4 said: The tl/dr: Stubhub does not verify that sellers actually hold the tickets they are selling. Only Ticketmaster's resale system seems to be able to do that. Do not assume that Stubhub's "Fan Guarantee" will mean you'll be happy. I think once venues switched to mobile ticketing, it has removed resellers' ability to verify tickets and thus you're dealing with a bit of the wild west on their platform. I just listed my preseasan seats on stubhub and was surprised they did not ask for the barcode on the tickets, as they always have in the past. I think Stub and Ticketmaster now linked for NFL tickets, but gunna find out for sure and will repost here when I get an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 16 hours ago, Estro said: There fees over thr last 20 years have slowly risen from 10% on each side to close to 20-25% on each side. They lobbied congress to make street scalping illegal and then became the worst scalpers of all. Very sneaky. BTW, I have 4 season tickets on the 50 yard line, Bills sideline, row 40. Some of the best seats in the house. My brother and I don't make it to every game so if you're ever looking send me a message. I'll save you some money and you'll save me some money not having to absorb all those stubhub fees. When scalpers where making money walking the venues before games thats was illegal. Now that corporate America has its hand in the pie its OK now. Meanwhile lots of scalpers were arrested, fined, and even handed jail sentences back in the day. Now its accepted and has been encouraged. Follows our capitialistic society. Gambling was illegal and only accepted at Las Vegas and Atlantic City. Then just Indian tribes could have Casinos on Soveriegn land, now its a free for all. Gambling on sports was always done in the shadows, now you can do it at the venue through a corporation What is good for the Goose is obviously not good for the Gander.... and Stubhub should be boycotted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 It is insane that Stubhub and TM charge fees to BOTH buyer and seller With TM you used to be able to select a few sections and then see all the tix available. Now you have to select each little dot on a seat to see the prices - so hard to find seats No Idea why Websites REMOVE functionality. I really believe that the website developers never actually USE their sites to see how it works for real people As a side note: I have 8 seats for all Games that I usually sell - Sec 111 Row 7 and Row 14 so DM me if interested. Tix are $$$ but no fees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I used to buy tix on Stubhub but based on the posters experience and some others, I stopped a couple years ago. I've had good experiences with SeatGeek and Ticketmaster. As a matter of fact, I just bought 3 Bills @ Commanders tickets on SeatGeek. The transaction was fine and I got the digital tickets. The price and fees were painful though. Local Washington fans cannot believe how expensive the Bills game is. The Mafia is jacking up prices everywhere. It's way more pricey than the home opener vs. Ariz and even more expensive than the Eagles game there (which is always sold out by Philly fans taking an easy road trip). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 54 minutes ago, zow2 said: As a matter of fact, I just bought 3 Bills @ Commanders tickets on SeatGeek. The transaction was fine and I got the digital tickets. The price and fees were painful though. Local Washington fans cannot believe how expensive the Bills game is. The Mafia is jacking up prices everywhere. It's way more pricey than the home opener vs. Ariz and even more expensive than the Eagles game there (which is always sold out by Philly fans taking an easy road trip). Yup, the Bills only come here once every eight years, so it's a hot ticket. Listening to the local sports station the other day, WJFK, and they were talking about if the Snyder-less Commanders can win back the fans. There was much talk that the home opener vs. Arizona will be packed with Commie fans but they conceded that the Bills game may look and sound more like Orchard Park...😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I bought 7 tickets to the Bills/Giants game yesterday via SeatGeek. It was a painless transaction however as @zow2 said, the per ticket fee was pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I've never had a problem with them. Blame is on the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 Just now, Mr. WEO said: I've never had a problem with them. Blame is on the seller. I don't disagree that the blame is on the seller. But, at least in "the old days", these platforms verified that sellers actually held the tickets they are trying to sell. With the move away from paper tickets and to mobile tickets, that no longer seems to be the case. I don't see why they couldn't do this - sellers could transfer tickets to the broker, who could in turn verify the ticket and then transfer it upon sale to the buyer. Of course, that prevents multiple listings across different brokers, and requires significantly more labor. Though, with the fees that are being charged, it would seem like a reasonable service that they could provide. Essentially these platforms are as good as the sellers that are on them. And in their current state, you have no idea who that seller is - no rating, no data on their past history, none of that. It's as trustworthy as using PayPal to buy tickets off of a rando on Craigslist... they offer similar buyer protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 11 hours ago, metbill said: I feel the same about tickets; rather pay a bit more to have them in hand early and have a concrete plan in place for the weekend as I am 17 hours away. That being said, I use SeatGeek and pay on my Amex. If any issues arise, AMEX is great for getting disputes taken care of, and I have not had a bad experience with SeatGeek as of yet. I also use SeatGeak and have had good success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 What I use to like about StubHub was that you could indicate a max price you wanted to pay for an event and if tickets at that price or less became available, they would notify you. That feature's been gone for years however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 3 hours ago, sullim4 said: I don't disagree that the blame is on the seller. But, at least in "the old days", these platforms verified that sellers actually held the tickets they are trying to sell. With the move away from paper tickets and to mobile tickets, that no longer seems to be the case. I don't see why they couldn't do this - sellers could transfer tickets to the broker, who could in turn verify the ticket and then transfer it upon sale to the buyer. Of course, that prevents multiple listings across different brokers, and requires significantly more labor. Though, with the fees that are being charged, it would seem like a reasonable service that they could provide. Essentially these platforms are as good as the sellers that are on them. And in their current state, you have no idea who that seller is - no rating, no data on their past history, none of that. It's as trustworthy as using PayPal to buy tickets off of a rando on Craigslist... they offer similar buyer protection. caveat emptor has always applied in any business transaction. Nothing new here. you had an outlier experience. It happens. Might as well start a thread about your ordered food arriving missing an item, or cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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