nucci Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, wppete said: Damn! I’ve never thought about formations with Dalton and Dawson in the backfield. This would be nuts. how do you defend something like this? Dalton Dawson Josh Diggs Harty Davis you cover them, Not sure why this would be nuts. 1 3 Quote
Ben Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, HansLanda said: I know it's been maybe even slightly belabored, but what if Torrence is just so nasty and strong it is going to be his job and Bates is backup #1 for any of the spots across the oline? I think this is best case scenario yeh Quote
wppete Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, nucci said: you cover them, Not sure why this would be nuts. And with what Defensive formations? Do you bring in LBs or Nickle DBs. Defensive coordinators will be scratching their heads. 1 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Damn! I’ve never thought about formations with Dalton and Dawson in the backfield. This would be nuts. how do you defend something like this? Dalton Dawson Josh Diggs Harty Davis sounds like more designed Allen runs out of that formation too. Hopefully the Allen runs are used in frequently and at the right times. 1 Quote
eball Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 Sounds like a "we're ready for our day off" kind of practice this morning...at least from the offense. 1 2 Quote
nucci Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, wppete said: And with what Defensive formations? Do you bring in LBs or Nickle DBs. Defensive coordinators will be scratching their heads. Teams line up WRs and TEs in backfield a lot. You think this would confuse a defense? Quote
Beck Water Posted August 1, 2023 Author Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Interesting that this is going on with McDermott apparently away from practice for a "family matter" Edited August 1, 2023 by Beck Water 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted August 1, 2023 Author Posted August 1, 2023 I'm hoping that one or more of the guys who cover practice will spell out the personnel in the OL that are getting pwn'd. Apparently Dawkins, McGovern, and Morse are in there, and Brown. Is it Bates, Torrence, or Edwards at RG? Is this the lineup that's consistently getting owned? Quote
Logic Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, nucci said: Teams line up WRs and TEs in backfield a lot. You think this would confuse a defense? It has nothing to do with confusing the defense. I believe the pete was saying that it would put stress on the defense and create advantageous matchups for the offense. Typically, a player lined up in the backfield will be covered by a linebacker. Having both Kincaid and Knox covered by linebackers seems like an advantage for the Bills offense. Then add in, say, Stefon Diggs in the slot, and you're looking at a host of possible mismatches that Allen can exploit in the passing game. 6 Quote
Beck Water Posted August 1, 2023 Author Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Edit: from other reports, this was actually a Barkley pass, and the play had been whistled dead But still Edited August 1, 2023 by Beck Water correcting Cybulski 4 4 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Uh-oh Latavius Murray is training camp sacrificial lamb. Brought in to be the punching bag by everyone else that will make the roster. of course, with the Hines injury, he could have an opening to make the roster may be. 1 Quote
Fleezoid Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 Defenses are always stronger early on, but the comments about the O-line are concerning. Just hoping our D-line is/will be that good! 2 Quote
Beck Water Posted August 1, 2023 Author Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) So now I'm confused, did Hamlin get two picks or one, and if one, was it thrown by Barkley or Kyle Allen? Edited August 1, 2023 by Beck Water Quote
Logic Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 This is training camp. Some days the offense looks really good and we worry about the defense. Other days the defense looks really good and we worry about the offense. When things start to become a trend -- like if we start hearing that the offensive line struggles multiple days in a row or the corners can't cover anyone -- THEN it can become a concern. 4 3 3 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 For all the Offensive line talk today its understandable this early into padded practices. Usually defenses can install their base packages a lot quicker than the offenses can. This means that most likely the defense is starting to run more exotic looks/blitzes earlier and the Bills offense hasn't gotten that far along. I wouldn't worry too much about this right now. 3 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Latavius Murray is training camp sacrificial lamb. Brought in to be the punching bag by everyone else that will make the roster. of course, with the Hines injury, he could have an opening to make the roster may be. LOL.... the hit was near the sideline and Murray is a beast Quote
nucci Posted August 1, 2023 Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Logic said: It has nothing to do with confusing the defense. I believe the pete was saying that it would put stress on the defense and create advantageous matchups for the offense. Typically, a player lined up in the backfield will be covered by a linebacker. Having both Kincaid and Knox covered by linebackers seems like an advantage for the Bills offense. Then add in, say, Stefon Diggs in the slot, and you're looking at a host of possible mismatches that Allen can exploit in the passing game. ok but guessing defense would remove LBs and replace with DBs with only Allen being able to run the ball. 6 DB, 1 LB for Allen and you're covered. 1 Quote
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