Training Camp 8/1 9:45

[Beck Water]

Just now, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

If Torrence shines, and Brown continues to struggle, do they try Bates at RT? Bates has been at minimum serviceable at every spot he’s manned on the OL, played tackle in college, not sure how much at the pro level, but it’s certainly not looking great for Brown out there based on early reports.

 

Hopefully it’s simply a case of the pass rush finally being the dominant force McBeane has been trying to build since day 1.

 

I don't think they see Bates as a tackle except for "Break Glass In Emergency".

 

I guess in his cameos at tackle, he looked better than Bobby Hart did, but that's kind of a low bar.

 

If Brown continues to struggle, I think we'll see Brandon Shell, the 8 year vet we signed as a FA.  I would expect him to be servicable or a bit better.

[Toledo Bill]

1 hour ago, balln said:

Go back and watch cincy playoff game. Dawkins was worse than saffold and Spencer all year. He looked f*cking awfuk. He’s gonna be out of here in 1-2 years 

He has regressed big time. I know quality left tackles don’t grow on trees but he is not the player he was a couple of years ago.

[RiotAct]

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Tweets cause you to feel this way.  

Don’t you mean… X’s?

 

[GoBills808]

23 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

At best he’s 4th on the WR depth chart and given how well Kinkaid is playing and what we expect his role to be, I don’t see how Shakir gets a ton of snaps on game days. 

How do you figure 4th at best lol he's third in line right now

[ngbills]

3 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

 

Every Bills defender is begging to get some reps vs Spencer Brown. They know its how you win a roster spot. 

[PromoTheRobot]

8 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

He has regressed big time. I know quality left tackles don’t grow on trees but he is not the player he was a couple of years ago.

 

The Shnowman needs to focus on job one, or he'll be shoveling shnow again.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, ngbills said:

Every Bills defender is begging to get some reps vs Spencer Brown. They know it’s how you win a roster spot. 

Floyd is pretty good though. I would hate facing him in practice every day. Fast and relentless. He’s probably trying to show off for his new team.

11 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

He has regressed big time. I know quality left tackles don’t grow on trees but he is not the player he was a couple of years ago.

I think he’s struggling with his conditioning. Not a young man anymore. Needs to start taking the offseason more seriously.

[Big Blitz]

This oline was at its best when Bates was LG. 
 

And that’s how this plays out unless he’s the 2C.  
 

McGovern is a depth piece being paid starter money by a team that was desperate to upgrade its interior.  Teams with good olines let a UFA like that walk all day.  
 

 

Dawkins—Bates—Morse—Torrence—Help

[Beck Water]

Miller, Phillips, and Matakevich aren't day to day, they're on the active/PUP list.

 

Did not know about Tim Settle - hope it doesn't linger for him.

[That's No Moon]

2 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

If the Bills listened to every knee jerk reaction every time someone drops a pass there would be no one left on the roster to catch passes.  

but if they all drop passes (apart from Diggs and Kincaid apparently), is there actually anyone on the roster to catch passes now?

[John from Riverside]

6 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

This oline was at its best when Bates was LG. 
 

And that’s how this plays out unless he’s the 2C.  
 

McGovern is a depth piece being paid starter money by a team that was desperate to upgrade its interior.  Teams with good olines let a UFA like that walk all day.  
 

 

Dawkins—Bates—Morse—Torrence—Help

Lol

[Beck Water]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

This oline was at its best when Bates was LG. 
 

And that’s how this plays out unless he’s the 2C.  
 

McGovern is a depth piece being paid starter money by a team that was desperate to upgrade its interior.  Teams with good olines let a UFA like that walk all day.  
 

 

Dawkins—Bates—Morse—Torrence—Help

 

McGovern is a depth piece who started 15 games for the Cowboys last season.  He started 6 and 8 games the previous year.  In other words, in his 3 years in the league, he's started 57% of possible games and 64% of the games he's been active for.

 

When teams have a "depth piece" with that much starting experience, he's typically hard to keep because he will have a significant FA market.  In other words, another way to put it is "teams with good olines often have to let a UFA like that walk, because they can't match his market".

 

[John from Riverside]

14 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Every Bills defender is begging to get some reps vs Spencer Brown. They know its how you win a roster spot. 

So now, all of a sudden, Leonard Floyd is not good. You really can’t make this ***** up.
 

Perhaps the defensive line of the Buffalo Bills is just that good

[HeHateMe]

Spencer Brown getting torched in camp?  Who could of saw that coming 😕

[Gregg]

Thad Brown on Twitter: "Offense not having a good day. Penalties. Botched snaps. Josh was visibly frustrated at one point. A good chunk of it seems to be heavy blitzing from D and the offense playing to handle it. #Bills" / X

[Beck Water]

 

 

[Bangarang]

18 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

How do you figure 4th at best lol he's third in line right now

Deonte Harty offers something Shakir doesn’t that’s why I put him ahead. 

[Big Blitz]

19 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

McGovern is a depth piece who started 15 games for the Cowboys last season.  He started 6 and 8 games the previous year.  In other words, in his 3 years in the league, he's started 57% of possible games and 64% of the games he's been active for.

 

When teams have a "depth piece" with that much starting experience, he's typically hard to keep because he will have a significant FA market.  In other words, another way to put it is "teams with good olines often have to let a UFA like that walk, because they can't match his market".

 

 

Didn’t Biadasz start over him?  They had a bunch of injuries last year and when Pollard wasn’t blowing off the occasional 50 yard run they couldn’t run well.  
 

EDIT Biadasz is their C.  My bad. 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Big Blitz

[Ethan in Cleveland]

25 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said:

He has regressed big time. I know quality left tackles don’t grow on trees but he is not the player he was a couple of years ago.

Yup. That's why he has not been restructured. If he doesn't rebound he will be a salary cap cut next offseason 

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Yup. That's why he has not been restructured. If he doesn't rebound he will be a salary cap cut next offseason 

I was thinking that as well I really don’t feel like he’s taking his off-season conditioning seriously and whenever he wasn’t restructured, I thought that sent a message