Simon Says Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 2 hours ago, wppete said: Hope he gets millions for this. Life and career ruined. She doesn't have any money. If he wins a case against her, it will probably just be a moral victory. But if he DOES win,I think it gets him back to the NFL sooner. 1 hour ago, AuntieEm said: Don't think there's a wrongful termination suit available as no one is entitled to a spot on an NFL team. Even the 1st overall pick every year is not a lock if anything like this were directed at them. Right. You dont know anything about labor/employment law. 1 Quote
SoTier Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 32 minutes ago, Doc said: She admitted it was a hoax. Should have claimed she was drunk or someone drugged her. The girl in the Araiza case or the young woman in the Alabama case? I looked up the result of the Araiza investigation, and the criminal charges weren't brought against any of the defendents because there wasn't enough evidence to get convictions. Apparently, after the DA declined to bring charges, the girl (who was 17 at the time) filed the civil suit, which made Araiza's name public. Quote
Doc Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: She doesn't have any money. If he wins a case against her, it will probably just be a moral victory. But if he DOES win,I think it gets him back to the NFL sooner. Right. You dont know anything about labor/employment law. Are you saying that Araiza has a case against the Bills? 1 minute ago, SoTier said: The girl in the Araiza case or the young woman in the Alabama case? I looked up the result of the Araiza investigation, and the criminal charges weren't brought against any of the defendents because there wasn't enough evidence to get convictions. Apparently, after the DA declined to bring charges, the girl (who was 17 at the time) filed the civil suit, which made Araiza's name public. The Alabama case. She admitted it was a hoax. And in Araiza's case, the DA hadn't made a decision when they brought the civil suit. Which almost never happens. 1 Quote
wppete Posted July 29, 2023 Author Posted July 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, HOUSE said: It wasn't Araiza, it was the other 2 Yutes 3 Quote
UConn James Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, QCity said: The woman’s attorney, Dan Gilleon, said he had not see the lawsuit yet “and we don’t litigate in the media.” This guy's a real piece of work 😂 A bit surprising / disappointing that Ariza is not suing this piece of 💩 lawyer who absolutely litigated in the media last year when he was the mouthpiece 📢 for his lying 🤬 of a client. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 I will say the same now as I said when she accused him: let the legal process play out The fact the DA considered there was no case to answer criminally does not mean he would win a civil action against the accuser. Look at my post history. I didn't bury Araiza then. I won't bury the accuer now. 3 1 Quote
UConn James Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 (edited) A bit surprising / disappointing that Araiza is not suing the piece of 💩 lawyer who absolutely “litigated in the media” last year when he was the mouthpiece 📢 for his lying 🤬 of a client. Edited July 29, 2023 by UConn James Quote
Doc Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, UConn James said: A bit surprising / disappointing that Ariza is not suing this piece of 💩 lawyer who absolutely litigated in the media last year when he was the mouthpiece 📢 for his lying 🤬 of a client. A month ago he said he plans to do so. Quote
HurlyBurly51 Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, QCity said: The woman’s attorney, Dan Gilleon, said he had not see the lawsuit yet “and we don’t litigate in the media.” This guy's a real piece of work 😂 Yep. He should be named in the suit as well. Quote
HOUSE Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, wppete said: I wore this completely ridiculous suit just for you 2 Quote
wppete Posted July 29, 2023 Author Posted July 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I wore this completely ridiculous suit just for you this guy was my favourite 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 The whole situation is messed up. Sucks because I was really intrigued by Araiza as a prospect. Could’ve been the next Brian Moorman and a legit weapon for field position battle. Hope he gets her for every cent Quote
chongli Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, SoTier said: I think the difference is that the woman in the Araiza case actually had a basis for her criminal complaint in that she felt that she had been raped by several men at a party. I don't know if the criminal case against the other men went forward but the criminal investigation revealed that Araiza had left the party. The woman in Alabama fabricated the entire incident ... there never was a toddler on the side of the interstate and she was never kidnapped. Yep, in the Alabama case, the woman made an intentional and false diversion to aid her disappearance. It was an out-and-out pre-conceived ploy. meant to deceive and mislead. 1 Quote
Flipnmi Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 3 hours ago, T master said: I wonder if the Bills FO meaning Beane, McD, & Pegs talked to him to get his story first or if they just cut bait ASAP ? If he does win his suit against her in court would that look bad on the Bills for not looking into it before getting rid of him & not sticking up for one of their players ? I mean they drafted him & apparently had long conversations with him & they thought he was a upstanding young man the type that the Bills thought would be a good fit 🤔. I mean it could have been a real S**T show but even when Marshawn, & Marcel pulled their deals they waited to gather info before closing those doors . Last thought again if he is completely cleared of all charges & wins the law suit against her could he file a wrongful termination suit against the Bills ? I don't know much about the law but Stranger things have happened . I realize this all went down almost a 11 months ago and people tend to have short memories, but my recollection was that the Bills were very supportive of him as the new broke. Unfortunately eventually it became clear that the time and energy he would need to spend on defending himself would also require him to put his NFL career on pause. I would not ne shocked that they supported him through the legal process as they seemed to believe his version of the story. Fortunately, the truth was revealed fairly quickly and he can start the journey to have a real life again. This is all despite the opinions and comments of idiots like Mike Schopp that were 110% convinced he was guilty because the LA Times would never report anything that was not accurate! This thread is not about Schopp, but I clearly recall being sickened by his lack of professionalism and stupidity at the time. 1 3 Quote
Doc Brown Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: The whole situation is messed up. Sucks because I was really intrigued by Araiza as a prospect. Could’ve been the next Brian Moorman and a legit weapon for field position battle. Hope he gets her for every cent We still could sign him next season if we want to move on from Martin next season. My biggest concern with Araiza was his control as he had a difficult time with pooch punts in college. 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: We still could sign him next season if we want to move on from Martin next season. My biggest concern with Araiza was his control as he had a difficult time with pooch punts in college. So now that you surmise he is exonerated, you're worried that he's not good at kicking dogs? 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: So now that you surmise he is exonerated, you're worried that he's not good at kicking dogs? Pooch punts are usually shorter directional punts with the goal of pinning an opponent inside the 20. Araiza in college struggled with this. Nothing to do with kicking dogs and I'm sorry for the confusion. Quote
Dr. Who Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Pooch punts are usually shorter directional punts with the goal of pinning an opponent inside the 20. Araiza in college struggled with this. Nothing to do with kicking dogs and I'm sorry for the confusion. I guess my joke didn't come off. I know what they are, but thanks for the explanation. It's kind of you. Quote
aristocrat Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 3 hours ago, chongli said: She will probably declare bankruptcy, which eliminates that debt. She was under 18 so her parents could be at fault and if they have a general liability insurance policy they could be losing everything. 3 Quote
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