Has Miami really closed the gap?

[billsbackto81]

41 minutes ago, noacls said:

I am a Bills Fan, however:

Dolphins have better coaching

Bills almost lost to backup QB in playoffs 

 

No one can make excuses like a Bills Fan

 

More worried about Miami than Jets. Bills do not do well with speed. Miami is all speed

Rookie coach that backed into the playoffs is better? I kinda understand considering how McD has handled the last 2 postseasons, but I feel it's too soon to debate.

 

Almost lost is still a loss and if you look at the stats of that game it was more of what Buffalo did wrong instead of what Miami did right.

 

Personally I'm more worried about the Jets.  Their D has proven legit and gave us fits. Bills always put up monster numbers against Miami. 

[Doc]

56 minutes ago, noacls said:

I am a Bills Fan, however:

Dolphins have better coaching

Bills almost lost to backup QB in playoffs 

 

No one can make excuses like a Bills Fan

 

More worried about Miami than Jets. Bills do not do well with speed. Miami is all speed

 

Who cares if they almost lost?  They didn't.  And when you're playing a division opponent, all bets are off since the teams know and are built for each other.

[FLFan]

1 hour ago, noacls said:

I am a Bills Fan, however:

Dolphins have better coaching

Bills almost lost to backup QB in playoffs 

 

No one can make excuses like a Bills Fan

 

More worried about Miami than Jets. Bills do not do well with speed. Miami is all speed

Clueless.  Not even worth the time to point out all the reasons why.  Study up and come back with some real arguments, “Bills Fan”.  

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

Never mentioned a link. Referring mostly to YouTube sports videos, Twitter, podcasts and fans in general. 

 

 

that's what I figured. 

 

#feelings

[FLFan]

16 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said:

 

I think the jury is still out on how good of an NFL coach McDaniel is. 

 

I don't like him as a person because of how he handled Tua's injuries and then having the moxie to come out in a press conference and say that he would never put a player out there who wasn't safe to play....   right after the entire NFL watched him do just that!  

 

He put Tua back out against the Bills when he was clearly not safe to play, and to maintain the charade, he sent him back out 5 days later on a short week and nearly got him killed against the Bengals.

 

He said he would never sacrifice a player to get a win.  Does anyone believe that?   Not a fan.

McDaniel is an arrogant tool, and totally responsible for their Tua related issues, given that if had he done the right thing to begin with, they probably could have avoided the worst of it.  Additionally, their offense regressed dramatically under Tua after his return from the concussions.  McDaniel is no genius, and a poor leader IMO.  

[oldmanfan]

No

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

Never mentioned a link. Referring mostly to YouTube sports videos, Twitter, podcasts and fans in general. 

 

Well, that's certainly a scientific sample.

 

[billsbackto81]

21 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

Well, that's certainly a scientific sample.

 

Would you feel better if you heard it from Bill Nye or Neil Degrasse Tyson?

[BuffaloBillyG]

Is this closing the gap?

 

 

[SoTier]

5 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Would you feel better if you heard it from Bill Nye or Neil Degrasse Tyson?

 

Nope.  

[billsbackto81]

46 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

that's what I figured. 

 

#feelings

And what credible outlet do you use as a resource? You'll find plenty of analysts and pundits on NFL Network, PFF, etc saying the same thing.

[Beck Water]

I will admit it: I thought Mike McDaniel was a little punk who was way over his head as a HC.

 

But, even though he sounds incoherent to me when he talks to the media, he's apparently Got It Going On when he tries to relate to the players.

Last year they believed, and they went hard for him.  But their record was still only 9-8.  McDaniel took over a Dolphins team that was 10-6 then 9-8 the two years before he took over.   And it's not like it was a talentless team, or a team with a bad culture; they actually had a lot of talent.   So he, as of now, has not shown that the team has taken a step vs. previous coaches/seasons.

 

That said....a lot of head coaches have a good 1st season because the change brings new energy and buy-in to the team, only to fizzle for various reasons. 

Matt Nagy: before he arrived 5-11.  First year 12-4.  Then 8-8 x2, 6-11 FIRED

Adam Gase: before he arrived 6-10.  First year 10-6.  Then 6-10, 7-9, FIRED

Todd Bowles: before he arrived 4-12.  First year 10-6.  Then 5-11 x2, 4-12, FIRED

 

That's not the only pattern of course. My points are:

1) McDaniel didn't achieve a better record with his team during his 1st season

2) McDaniel inherited a team with a lot of talent, including the QB he's apparently gonna ride-and-die with, Waddle, Gesicki, etc

3) It's early days to tell whether McDaniel will, long term, improve the team's record.

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2023 by Beck Water

[billsfan89]

I just honestly don't see it with Miami. Tua is constantly hurt and even when he plays he isn't much more than a poor mans Matt Ryan which while not a bad QB is not a QB that pushes a team towards contention. Their RB's are decent but nothing spectacular and their O-line is below average. Hill and Waddle are super dynamic but there isn't much on their roster once you get past those two so that puts a lot of pressure on those two. 

 

I don't think Miami is bad, their defense is good even without Ramsey and they have some talent on offense. But between Tua's injury concerns and a lackluster O-line and skill position depth, I don't see them being much more than a decent 8-10 win team. I a more concerned about the Jets in the division and even the Jets have massive O-line concerns. 

[Pokebball]

Yes

[Mr. WEO]

37 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

And what credible outlet do you use as a resource? You'll find plenty of analysts and pundits on NFL Network, PFF, etc saying the same thing.

I have no outlets that would tell me what you feel you are reading about on Twitter or watching on YouTube.

 

Now you are saying it is specific mainstream analysts mentioning Miami in the same breath as KC and Buffalo as what? Top SB contenders?

 

just link me to that then.  This is what I was asking for before

Edited July 29, 2023 by Mr. WEO

[HOUSE]

Mike White reminds me of Frank Reich, he is under rated IMO

Did the Dolphins close the gap

Maybe a little.  

 

 

Edited July 29, 2023 by HOUSE

[RalphWilson'sNewWar]

One thing working for Miami is they do have the only offensive minded head coach in the AFC East.

 

Who I would also say is the best offensive coordinator in the AFC east.

 

And with Vic Fangio, on defense that would put them as having the best two coordinators in the division.

 

But what about Bellichick… historically he’s great, but he’s not what he was five seasons ago.  And McDermott?  Let’s see how long it takes for him to shake the rust off.

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Is this closing the gap?

 

 

Didn’t Eli clown them last time?

21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

I have no outlets that would tell me what you feel you are reading about on Twitter or watching on YouTube.

 

Now you are saying it is specific mainstream analysts mentioning Miami in the same breath as KC and Buffalo as what? Top SB contenders?

 

just link me to that then.  This is what I was asking for before

I’m so sick and tired of nobody saying the Dolphins have closed the gap!

[Success]

I truly believe that there is a significant gap between the Bills, and all 3 teams in the division.  Miami represents the biggest competition, but they're not at our level.

 

That doesn't mean games w/ them won't be tough.  They are division games, after all. But in the close ones we had w/ them last year, it was more poor play by the Bills than good play by Miami that was a factor.

 

[Mr. WEO]

9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Didn’t Eli clown them last time?

I’m so sick and tired of nobody saying the Dolphins have closed the gap!

 

 

so much emotional fatigue in this thread!!