Bills working out FA receiver Andy Isabella tomorrow UPDATE: SIGNED

[BillnutinHouston]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

Another great addition to the Bills WR core. Not sure who is going to be odd man out. 

 

The WR corps will be better off, too.

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Guy reminds me of Wayne Chrebet.

 

it’s possible he finds a role here. Has shown playmaking skills and has good speed

 

Diggs

Davis

Sherfield 

Harty

Shakir

Isabella

Shorter

 

Now think this through a bit. 

 

We kept 7 WR in 2021 by having only 2 TE on the roster - Knox and Sweeney.  That bit us on the butt when Knox broke his hand and was out a few weeks. 

 

It would be foolish, if we're counting on 2 TE sets to be an integral part of the offense, to keep less than 3 (plus Gilliam as a FB/break glass in emergency TE) and it wouldn't be outlandish to keep 4.

 

The roster space has to come from somewhere, and means we're keeping 6 WR max.

Edited July 29, 2023 by Beck Water

[Airseven]

TBD busts out the Andy Isabella/Wayne Chrebet comp! Let’s go!!!

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I was surprised that they signed Isabella, but he is basically a lottery ticket

Great speed. Hines out. Take a runner on him. Not a huge risk.

[John from Riverside]

18 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

I applaud you for explaining this at least a dozen times now to people saying the same dumb things about punt returns.

 

”He ran a 3.9 40.”

”He’s returned 9 punts over 2 years and 5 didn’t go well.”

”He’s FAST! And short. Definitely a punt returner put him in immediately.”

 

”….okay”

I think I would rather let the former all pro punt, returner return pants

[hondo in seattle]

25 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Now think this through a bit. 

 

We kept 7 WR in 2021 by having only 2 TE on the roster - Knox and Sweeney.  That bit us on the butt when Knox broke his hand and was out a few weeks. 

 

It would be foolish, if we're counting on 2 TE sets to be an integral part of the offense, to keep less than 3 (plus Gilliam as a FB/break glass in emergency TE) and it wouldn't be outlandish to keep 4.

 

The roster space has to come from somewhere, and means we're keeping 6 WR max.

 

We'll only run 2TE sets if Kincaid and Knox are both healthy.    

 

We'll run 21 (except in short-yardage situations) almost exclusively if either Kincaid or Know is hurt.

 

I expect we'll keep 3 TEs.  

[Manther]

29 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Now think this through a bit. 

 

We kept 7 WR in 2021 by having only 2 TE on the roster - Knox and Sweeney.  That bit us on the butt when Knox broke his hand and was out a few weeks. 

 

It would be foolish, if we're counting on 2 TE sets to be an integral part of the offense, to keep less than 3 (plus Gilliam as a FB/break glass in emergency TE) and it wouldn't be outlandish to keep 4.

 

The roster space has to come from somewhere, and means we're keeping 6 WR max.

Hines was a RB to return.  Isabella is a WR to return.  Same roster spot different position, but, same position.

 

Players get hurt too.  Great player to hedge bets with.

[Bubba Gump]

2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

Loved Harry when he came out of college. I was kinda pissed that the Pats got him. I thought he was gonna be a monster for them. Too bad he ***** himself when he got there. 

[buffaloboyinATL]

1 hour ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

Loved Harry when he came out of college. I was kinda pissed that the Pats got him. I thought he was gonna be a monster for them. Too bad he ***** himself when he got there. 

This whole place was drooling over Harry when he came in the league. Unfortunately, he has that patriots stink all over him, and is now unacceptable.

 

Edited July 29, 2023 by buffaloboyinATL

[buffaloboyinATL]

On 7/27/2023 at 4:12 PM, ScottLaw said:

Can you imagine Beane properly addressing the WR position in FA/draft so he doesn’t have to bring in flyers in late July/August? 😅

 

Can you imagine having unlimited cap space and draft picks to make this fantasy a reality? Me neither. That is why I appreciate Beane’s endless  pursuit for diamonds in the rough, to make it all work, while paying our elite players what they deserve.

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, Manther said:

Hines was a RB to return.  Isabella is a WR to return.  Same roster spot different position, but, same position.

 

Players get hurt too.  Great player to hedge bets with.

 

Dude.  Hines had been one of the top KR/PR in the league for several years

 

Isabella has returned 1 punt for 1 yard, and 8 kickoffs TOTAL in his 4 year career - 5 in the first year

Help me understand why you believe the above should entitle him to a roster spot as a KR/PR?

 

 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Dude.  Hines had been one of the top KR/PR in the league for several years

 

Isabella has returned 1 punt for 1 yard, and 8 kickoffs TOTAL in his 4 year career - 5 in the first year

Help me understand why you believe the above should entitle him to a roster spot as a KR/PR?

 

 

My guess is Harty will be our KR and PR specialist

 

He also has an uncanny ability to track the deep ball .... I'm expecting some nice things ..  IF he can stay healthy

 

Great low key signing 

[Thurman#1]

On 7/28/2023 at 5:12 AM, ScottLaw said:

Can you imagine Beane properly addressing the WR position in FA/draft so he doesn’t have to bring in flyers in late July/August? 😅

 

 

 

Don't have to imagine. He's done it.

 

Diggs. Kincaid. Gabe was headed for a thousand yards last year before the injury. Plenty of others ready to fill in the gaps as well.

 

He doesn't "have to" bring in Isabella. It's a move with no downside (Think they gave him a signing bonus or guaranteed money? The Ravens didn't last year.) with a chance of paying off significantly.

 

 

Edited July 29, 2023 by Thurman#1

[Pete]

7 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Dude.  Shakir returned 3 (three) punts last year.  3 punts, for 23 yards total. 

 

Pittsburgh: let one bounce.  Wound up pinning the Bills on the Pittsburgh 2.  1 FC

KC: 2 PR, 6 yds  bobbled one, pinned the Bills on the KC 4.  1 FC

GB: 1 PR for 17 yds (nice).  1 FC. 

And then the Bills traded for Nyheim Hines 2 days later, on November 1st.  He immediately took over PR and KR duties.

 

You may not connect the dots between Shakir returning punts in 3 games then the Bills trading for a player who immediately took over KR/PR....

But do you really want to claim that handling 7 punts in 3 games make a player "a solid and reliable punt returner last year" and show "coaches have faith with Shakir"?  Especially when they go out and trade for a player who then takes over?

 

I actually hate to write this because I like Shakir and want him to succeed.  But c'mon people - let him be what he's actually shown to date.  Don't puff him up into something he isn't.

 

I don't think after 3 days we know who is "on top of PR".  We know that at least 3 guys are returning kicks and punts: Harty, Evans, and Shakir (in no particular order)

Who is top of the depth chart as lead punt returner now?  That has to say something

 

[CSBill]

Isabella has Practice Squad written all over him. He is veteran insurance. Break glass when/if needed. A good pickup for this price and time.
 

If he contributes anything more than that, it’s bonus money — like the $40s I found in the pocket of the shorts I had not worn since last summer.

[Chandler#81]

9 hours ago, CNYfan said:

I think he is in a roster battle for the Practice Squad?   

🤔hmmm.. well, he’ll be eligible and most likely pass waivers, but if we cut what would be a 4X loser 2nd round pick, just how far does speed get you? I think he should take a real estate course. It’s not like aspiring young DBs will get noticed by covering him well. 🤷‍♂️

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

🤔hmmm.. well, he’ll be eligible and most likely pass waivers, but if we cut what would be a 4X loser 2nd round pick, just how far does speed get you? I think he should take a real estate course. It’s not like aspiring young DBs will get noticed by covering him well. 🤷‍♂️

Selling it, or how to get open on it?  Around here, that often means "Go long!!"

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[HOUSE]

I doubt Josh Allen gives up his jersey number but you never know

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

8 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I doubt Josh Allen gives up his jersey number but you never know

Chances:

3/5 of 5/8 of the square root of sweet f*** all. 
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We stand a better chance of seeing your wallet...🤔

[Manther]

6 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Dude.  Hines had been one of the top KR/PR in the league for several years

 

Isabella has returned 1 punt for 1 yard, and 8 kickoffs TOTAL in his 4 year career - 5 in the first year

Help me understand why you believe the above should entitle him to a roster spot as a KR/PR?

 

 

I didn’t say it did.  He is here to try out.