Training camp 7/27 9:45 AM

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Didn't see anything for today's session. Drop notes about observations if you like.

 

Mods please feel free to merge if I am spreading this out too much.

 

[Beck Water]

4 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Didn't see anything for today's session. Drop notes about observations if you like.

 

Mods please feel free to merge if I am spreading this out too much.

 

 

Does anyone know what the blue object Diggs is holding in his had might be?  He had one in his hand as he came out of the tunnel yesterday, as well.

 

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Didn't see anything for today's session. Drop notes about observations if you like.

 

Mods please feel free to merge if I am spreading this out too much.

 

I prefer the daily threads.  Good idea imo

[BuffaloBillyG]

I realize it's just day 2 and they are likely getting looks at guys in different situations, however Torrence will see his opportunity to take the job IMO. It's up to him to make it so the staff can't justify him coming off the field. 

 

Don't know if he can or will but I definitely am not counting him out. He brings something to the line no other OL does. 

[whorlnut]

Dane Jackson starting at CB2 again.

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I realize it's just day 2 and they are likely getting looks at guys in different situations, however Torrence will see his opportunity to take the job IMO. It's up to him to make it so the staff can't justify him coming off the field. 

 

Don't know if he can or will but I definitely am not counting him out. He brings something to the line no other OL does. 

seize the moment big man!!  Take it and run and fast as you can!

[BuffaloBillyG]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

seize the moment big man!!  Take it and run and fast as you can!

Running fast may not be his style...but he can lock on and drive the opportunity 20 yards downfield.  

[Special K]

That O line is in serious need of a talent upgrade......let’s hope Torrence fits the bill!

[HappyDays]

 

[Don Otreply]

9 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Running fast may not be his style...but he can lock on and drive the opportunity 20 yards downfield.  

Yup, drive it like you stole it,

[Beck Water]

 

Edited July 27, 2023 by Beck Water

[Warcodered]

19 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I realize it's just day 2 and they are likely getting looks at guys in different situations, however Torrence will see his opportunity to take the job IMO. It's up to him to make it so the staff can't justify him coming off the field. 

 

Don't know if he can or will but I definitely am not counting him out. He brings something to the line no other OL does. 

It does definitely show he's got a clear shot at taking the spot though if they're already rotating him in on day 2.

[Beck Water]

 

 

 

 

It's raining, it's pouring

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2023 by Beck Water

[SCBills]

The endorphin rush, followed by the immediate crash when reading Torrence is running with the 1's ... but so is Dane Jackson. 

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The endorphin rush, followed by the immediate crash when reading Torrence is running with the 1's ... but so is Dane Jackson. 

 

I mean what, do you want them to hand Elam the job if he isn't progressing in understanding his role and how to defend in a zone defense well enough?  Reports from camp yesterday was that he was giving up receptions in coverage, while running with the 2's.

 

People have a Jones here talking about how McDermott won't play rookies (or young players) for mysterious reasons even though the poor trodden upon rookies are so much better than the guy who is out there.

 

News flash, when rookies have been better than the alternative, they've played. 

Tre White: 16 starts as a rookie.

Dion Dawkins: 11 starts as a rookie

Zay Jones: 10 starts as a rookie (no, he wasn't good, but he was better than the alternative)

Tre Edmunds: 15 games as a rookie (again, made mistakes, but better than the alternative)

Ed Oliver: 7 starts as a rookie, including being benched for a few games.  Phillips was better.

Cody Ford: 15 starts as a rookie

 

As a team overall improves, and is more attractive to FA, it becomes harder and harder for a rookie to be "better than the alternative"

 

But the truth is, rookies get playing time if they deserve it by being better than the alternative, and lose playing time if they don't.  And deserving isn't limited to a few good plays fans see, it means understanding the play call and their role and being in the right place doing the right thing every play.

 

Edited July 27, 2023 by Beck Water

[Warcodered]

 

[Lost]

Just now, Beck Water said:

 

I mean what, do you want them to hand Elam the job if he isn't progressing in understanding his role and how to defend in a zone defense well enough?

Reports from camp yesterday was that he was giving up receptions in coverage, while running with the 2's.

 

I think its just that sinking feeling of more wasted draft capital that this team cannot really afford any more of considering how the rest of the conference has been progressing.  

[teef]

It’s raining.  A lot.  That’s all I can add.  

[78thealltimegreat]

1 minute ago, Lost said:

 

I think its just that sinking feeling of more wasted draft capital that this team cannot really afford any more of considering how the rest of the conference has been progressing.  

There’s always the Jets for you ESPN keeps running stuff how amazing they will be every 5 minutes 

[Simon Says]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I mean what, do you want them to hand Elam the job if he isn't progressing in understanding his role and how to defend in a zone defense well enough?  Reports from camp yesterday was that he was giving up receptions in coverage, while running with the 2's.

 

People have a Jones here talking about how McDermott won't play rookies (or young players) for mysterious reasons even though the poor trodden upon rookies are so much better than the guy who is out there.

 

News flash, when rookies have been better than the alternative, they've played. 

Tre White: 16 starts as a rookie.

Dion Dawkins: 11 starts as a rookie

Zay Jones: 10 starts as a rookie (no, he wasn't good, but he was better than the alternative)

Tre Edmunds: 15 games as a rookie (again, made mistakes, but better than the alternative)

Ed Oliver: 7 starts as a rookie, including being benched for a few games.  Phillips was better.

Cody Ford: 15 starts as a rookie

 

As a team overall improves, and is more attractive to FA, it becomes harder and harder for a rookie to be "better than the alternative"

 

But the truth is, rookies get playing time if they deserve it by being better than the alternative, and lose playing time if they don't.  And deserving isn't limited to a few good plays fans see, it means understanding the play call and their role and being in the right place doing the right thing every play.

 

Well said!