C.Biscuit97 Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, buffblue said: Herbert has all the tools you need. There's just something about him that screams lack of fire/determination to be great. Maybe I'm biased, or maybe it's because I watched him become the definition of Charlie Checkdown last year That was the knock against him coming out of college. Seems harsh that because a guy is quiet and an introvert it’s a bad thing but sometimes you do need to be the leader to get in your teammates’ faces. Personally, I’d rather play with a guy like Herbert than a dude like Marino who just would constantly scream at everyone. Allen has the perfect blend of fire and leadership. Honestly, I’d like him to get in Diggs face more. 2 Quote
buffblue Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That was the knock against him coming out of college. Seems harsh that because a guy is quiet and an introvert it’s a bad thing but sometimes you do need to be the leader to get in your teammates’ faces. Personally, I’d rather play with a guy like Herbert than a dude like Marino who just would constantly scream at everyone. Allen has the perfect blend of fire and leadership. Honestly, I’d like him to get in Diggs face more. I pretty much agree, but definitely agree with the last statement. And that's not a knock against Stef Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, buffblue said: Herbert has all the tools you need. There's just something about him that screams lack of fire/determination to be great. Maybe I'm biased, or maybe it's because I watched him become the definition of Charlie Checkdown last year. Scorned Fantasy Owner Idk about that. I give him a lot of credit for the way he finished that Chiefs game last year with I believe it was fractured ribs. Showed me something there as far as guts and wanting to win. He almost brought them back, too. I think some of his checkdown issues stemmed from that. I do agree there seems to be something "missing" with him though. Edited July 25, 2023 by BuffaloBillyG Quote
Franco_92 Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Idk about that. I give him a lot of credit for the way he finished that Chiefs game last year with I believe it was fractured ribs. Showed me something there as far as guts and wanting to win. He almost brought them back, too. I think some of his checkdown issues stemmed from that. I do agree there seems to be something "missing" with him though. Yeah, the guys ribs never healed. He loves to sling it when he is physically able to. Let's hope these guys take a bite out of KC this year 1 Quote
buffblue Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: Idk about that. I give him a lot of credit for the way he finished that Chiefs game last year with I believe it was fractured ribs. Showed me something there as far as guys and wanting to win. He almost brought them back, too. I think some of his checkdown issues stemmed from that. I do agree there seems to be something "missing" with him though. I omitted from my first post when complaining about fantasy football, but yes, you have to acknowledge Herbert was dealing with a painful rib issue for parts of last season. Not saying he's not tough 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 IMO Burrow deserves $310M/5yr then........and all guaranteed and up front from "Money Bags" Mike Brown. https://clutchpoints.com/bengals-news-cincinnati-owner-pact-joe-burrow-extension-negotiations Bills Mafia needs to support Bengals Whatever they are called to get their boy signed with just a $62M per year cap hit. 2 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 When do we start referring to Josh as the Walmart version of Justin Herbert. 5 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: For this millionth time, this is not how it works at all. Unless you are going to do this for every top qb that gets signed. “Wow, Dan Marino is a steal!” and he is a stud but it’s funny how Lamar Jackson gets crushed for not winning enough while everyone loves Herbert. I'm sorry. I didn't ask. Just pointing out what Rappaport tweeted. Settle down 1 Quote
Virgil Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) This is stupid. How is this man supposed to feed his family? Also, 1.5 mil less guaranteed than Lamar got Edited July 25, 2023 by Virgil 3 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: For this millionth time, this is not how it works at all. Unless you are going to do this for every top qb that gets signed. “Wow, Dan Marino is a steal!” and he is a stud but it’s funny how Lamar Jackson gets crushed for not winning enough while everyone loves Herbert. to be fair, only Lamar is trying to be forced into the top 3 conversation amongst the two. no one thinks Herbert is ELITE, just an excellent young qb. If you use the range of is Lamar a top 5-10 guy, everyone loves him too. 20 minutes ago, ngbills said: Beane wizadry at work. Signed Allen to a deal that only he knew would be passed by others in the following years. Pure genius at work. Just wait for the Trevor Lawrence deal. and after Lawrence and burrow… just wait for that Josh Allen guy to reset the market 3 Quote
JerseyBills Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: That’s valid. But the chargers always get talked about as SB contenders every year and they barely have a winning record with Herbert (flawed stat but elite qbs who make this money should have better than a 25-24 record). I really like him but if Jackson choked a way a 27-0 playoff lead, he would be getting crushed. I think Herbert gets the biggest pass in the league. Forreal.. And he had 2 great- really good wr and 1 of the best run games But la has no choice. Next year that # will just go up Edited July 25, 2023 by JerseyBills 2 Quote
MarkyMannn Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, NoSaint said: and after Lawrence and burrow… just wait for that Josh Allen guy to reset the market That's 1-2 years away, especially for Mahomes Quote
Gugny Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: For this millionth time, this is not how it works at all. Unless you are going to do this for every top qb that gets signed. “Wow, Dan Marino is a steal!” and he is a stud but it’s funny how Lamar Jackson gets crushed for not winning enough while everyone loves Herbert. How is that funny? Lamont is just another “exciting” regular season warrior who always misses time and sucks in the playoffs. 1 Quote
Lost Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 Who will get the first Billion dollar contract in the NFL? Quote
Augie Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Lost said: Who will get the first Billion dollar contract in the NFL? I mean, if you are looking for volunteers, I stay in pretty good shape and I’m available. 🤷♂️ That makes Powerball look like my best shot. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, Lost said: Who will get the first Billion dollar contract in the NFL? Probably not born yet. The question is how much further can the NFL grow? Quote
chongli Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Until Mike Brown finds his wallet and Burrow gets his deal done. Then Tua is next in line after Burrow, assuming all goes well with him this year. Edited July 26, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 Downside is Allen will get 70M on the backend of his deal. Quote
KingBoots8 Posted July 26, 2023 Posted July 26, 2023 Burrow just got moist looking at those figures. He’s gonna get paid big bucks real soon. The longer they wait the more it’s going to be. Considering the ownership Involved, I could see Burrow miss time or threaten to leave if he doesn’t get that bag in Cinci next year 2 Quote
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