OT…opinions of Jalen Hurts

[78thealltimegreat]

I was just checking the Madden rankings of the Olines and the Bills currently have a grade of one player above 80 that would be Dawkins sitting at 81.

 

By contrast the Eagles have a line where every single player has a grade above 80 with Lane Johnson scoring out at 98. 

I keep hearing from the talking heads that Hurts is in Josh Allen’s class but after seeing what protects him Hurts probably is closer to 6-10 in the league kinda guy.

[DCofNC]

Does is again this year and I’ll be on board.   The league has film on him now, it will be interesting to see if he can back it up.

[Chicken Boo]

There are not 5 QBs in football better than Jalen Hurts currently.  

 

Outside of that costly fumble, he was great in the Super Bowl.  

Edited July 22, 2023 by Chicken Boo

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I was just checking the Madden rankings of the Olines and the Bills currently have a grade of one player above 80 that would be Dawkins sitting at 81.

 

By contrast the Eagles have a line where every single player has a grade above 80 with Lane Johnson scoring out at 98. 

I keep hearing from the talking heads that Hurts is in Josh Allen’s class but after seeing what protects him Hurts probably is closer to 6-10 in the league kinda guy.

He played at an elite level last season.  I think Josh would’ve been MVP and won the Super Bowl if he played with that roster.  But that’s not the reality.

 

Mahomes played several seasons with Tyreek hill and Travis Kelce while having Andy Reid call his plays.  He benefitted greatly from from that trio.  He’s now minus Tyreek who was traded out for a great very good OL.  He’s still the best QB in the league.  There’s no dispute. Regardless of who’s calling plays and his supporting cast.  
 

Hurts was spectacular and I think that spectacular play will continue for another 5-10 years.  He’s a good kid, an extremely hard worker and a hell of an athlete.  

[billsbackto81]

They have very good coaches as well. It's quite the embarrassment of riches. 

 

Hurts is an excellent QB and he compliments that roster very well.

 

But, there are a few QBs in this league that would have done quite well with that line up, ours being one of them.  

[BuffBillsForLife]

Hurts is a very good QB but he has an incredible team around him.  But regardless of how good his o-line is he's still my #5 QB after Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, and Rodgers.

[GoBills808]

He's really good imo

 

And in a great spot to maximize his talents

 

Top10 easily

[Brand J]

Hurts surprised me with the absolute dimes he was throwing in the Super Bowl. He was extremely decisive too. I thought he clearly outplayed Pat until Pat turned into the Grim Reaper the 2nd half. I know Hurts was slowed by an injury all year too, so his ascension to the top has been very fast, like Josh. 

[NoSaint]

Great line, great weapons, and great results

 

where he balances out? Still unknown. 
 

of the elite young guys… it’s hard to find one that’s had a tougher situation than Josh. All had stretches with the truly elite overindexing of talent around them while on the rookie deal. 

[Shaw66]

It's interesting to me how people's statements about Hurts track the early conventional wisdom about him.  "Hurts surprised me" in the Super Bowl, and things like that.   I feel that way about him to.   It's as though based on whatever preliminary view of him was, he can't be as good as he looked last season.  For me, I thought he was primarily a runner and an inaccurate guy who probably couldn't get it done in the pocket.   All last season I didn't want to give up that view.   

 

For me at least, and maybe others, I've got start believing what we all saw last season.   Yes, he may have nice talent around him, but - dang! - the guy makes plays, over and over.  He makes the runs, he creates, and he delivers the football.  

 

I am not a believer in ratings like these, but having seen the Bills offensive line last sign, it's not hard to believe that the Eagles was better.   I'll give you that.  But line or not, Hurts consistently played high quality winning football.  Can he do it again?  We'll see. 

[NoSaint]

25 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

Hurts is a very good QB but he has an incredible team around him.  But regardless of how good his o-line is he's still my #5 QB after Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, and Rodgers.

Until proven otherwise, he’s ahead of the guys like dak and cousins for sure. Ahead of tua. 
 

And behind those 4…. You mention. 
 

leaves him in the Herbert-Lamar range. 
 

strange to think how fast Russ Wilson plummeted out of these talks. 

[BillsfaninChicago]

My opinion is if this whole football thing doesn’t work out he definitely needs to open a donut shop.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Hurts is a good player with a great team around him. 

[newcam2012]

57 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

There are not 5 QBs in football better than Jalen Hurts currently.  

 

Outside of that costly fumble, he was great in the Super Bowl.  

I love Allen but Hurts could be better than him. The guy is fabulous with his legs, has that it factor, is a winner, and has become a very good passer. He had an outstanding season and super bowl. 

 

I still have Allen ranked higher but I can see why Hurts is receiving a lot of accolades. He looks the part. Only question is can he build upon his great season and play similarly. 

[BADOLBILZ]

 

I'm not sold on Hurts yet.   I am a college football fan and he really was limited as a passer in college.   He's improved A LOT but nobody had a better combination of blocking and receiving talent around him last year.   

[Shaw66]

28 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

Until proven otherwise, he’s ahead of the guys like dak and cousins for sure. Ahead of tua. 
 

And behind those 4…. You mention. 
 

leaves him in the Herbert-Lamar range. 
 

strange to think how fast Russ Wilson plummeted out of these talks. 

Excellent.  That's a great ranking of the QBs in the league. 

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I was just checking the Madden rankings of the Olines and the Bills currently have a grade of one player above 80 that would be Dawkins sitting at 81.

 

By contrast the Eagles have a line where every single player has a grade above 80 with Lane Johnson scoring out at 98. 

I keep hearing from the talking heads that Hurts is in Josh Allen’s class but after seeing what protects him Hurts probably is closer to 6-10 in the league kinda guy.

I like the kid. I was skeptical before last season but in the games I watched,  he did look competent and managed the offense well. He had a superior supporting cast but that doesn't mean he isn't good.  Of course he had to prove that last year was not a fluke but he appears to be hard working and is tough not to cheer for him if he is not playing the Bills. 

And not every evaluation has to meander into a comparison with Allen.  He can be not at the same level of Mahomes, Allen and Burrow but still be considered a good QB

[Mikie2times]

The Eagles had a historically easy schedule in 2022. I mean look at this thing. 

 

 

 

Then they end up with the 49ers in the NFC championships and they lose every QB on the roster. 

 

Hurts benefited from a lot of timing/RPO's. The Scrum QB sneak play. I mean how valuable would a guaranteed 1-2 yards every time you had to have it be? They can't do that this year. If he can do anything close this year I will be impressed. Sirianni did a great job building an offense around him that was basically perfect for what he could do.  But give the league a year of tape. It's always that way. If he can duplicate his 22 campaign he deserves a lot of credit and is among the best in the league.  

[John from Riverside]

I opinion is that is a pretty damn good QB on a stacked team

[Dan in Owego]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I'm not sold on Hurts yet.   I am a college football fan and he really was limited as a passer in college.   He's improved A LOT but nobody had a better combination of blocking and receiving talent around him last year.   

I agree, truthfully i like the kid so not wishing him to fizzle out, but jeez i never saw this coming after watching him in college either. Lot of tape out on him and the scheme they run so will have a better feel for where he is heading as a pro Qb after this year.

Edited July 22, 2023 by Dan in Owego