LABILLBACKER Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 19 hours ago, Eastport bills said: Beasley is polarizing with his commentary. I think he’s a tough competitor and productive if given the opportunities. We were able to maximize his abilities and now he.can move on to the twilight of his career, We are on the precipice of presenting an offense that teams will not be able to defend.. The TEs and RBs are perfect for our quick release, strong armed QB. Our receivers are multidimensional with Diggs and Davis established as top notch and Shakir, Sherfield and Hardy ready to provide speed and a vertical component. If our O -line comes together, and provides running lanes and good pass protection, look out. .....my 55 years of Bills fandom has been hijacked by the word "if".... 1 2 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 So when we play him and he actually hears what it sounds like to be "Booed" he may realize we were saying Beese all along. booed- is that the right spelling? Boo-ed.nope Boood- doesn't look right. Ok I'm fine now. 1 Quote
Eastport bills Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 51 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: .....my 55 years of Bills fandom has been hijacked by the word "if".... I assume your trepidation with the “if” as it relates to the O-line being dominant is shared by many. The new guards, McGovern and Torrence, with Edwards in the wings,have to be better than Saffold and Bates. You would think, Dion, Brown (with another year under his belt) and a former starter in Shell backing them up, should be at least as good as last year and our more physical rbs should provide better protection than Motor and the rookie, Cook. I am cautiously optimistic. 1 Quote
tomur67 Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 I can’t understand the hatred for Beas. Just because he had a different opinion about Covid than you did is a pretty lame reason to hate the the guy. There were many prominent people who had the same opinion as he did, including many in the medical field. For two seasons, he was an integral reason for Josh’s success. Best of luck Beas! 1 2 3 Quote
Kwai San Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 22 hours ago, wppete said: 70 catches 900 yards for Beasley next year. NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN. Quote
Kwai San Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 11 hours ago, stlbills13 said: With the new kick rules I could see guys like Beasley make the roster if teams decide they don't need a 5th/6th WR to be a special teams guy. May actually impact our roster with guys like Cam Lewis but not sure McD is ready to give up on that yet McClappy is NOT an innovator. he will ride the ST gig longer than it needs to be ridden. Sadly..... 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 46 minutes ago, tomur67 said: I can’t understand the hatred for Beas. Just because he had a different opinion about Covid than you did is a pretty lame reason to hate the the guy. There were many prominent people who had the same opinion as he did, including many in the medical field. For two seasons, he was an integral reason for Josh’s success. Best of luck Beas! that’s not the reason at all boss… good try. 1 1 Quote
T master Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 Given the time to learn the scheme which he should know fairly well It wouldn't surprise me if he went there & did just what he did here & i for one am hoping he does just that and proves all the nay sayers wrong !! I bet there will be those on the Bills routing for him too . 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, T master said: Given the time to learn the scheme which he should know fairly well It wouldn't surprise me if he went there & did just what he did here & i for one am hoping he does just that and proves all the nay sayers wrong !! I bet there will be those on the Bills routing for him too . at age 34 it should surprise you if he puts up prime of his career performance. Him making the roster isn’t even a given. There’s an argument he’s WR8 for them going into camp. Especially after a meaningful dip 2 years ago, and not being able to find a team last year… there’s no reason to think he’s more than injury insurance Edited July 22, 2023 by NoSaint 1 Quote
T master Posted July 22, 2023 Posted July 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: at age 34 it should surprise you if he puts up prime of his career performance. Him making the roster isn’t even a given. Especially after a meaningful dip 2 years ago, and not being able to find a team last year. Agree'd - usually at his age most are considered done or the NFL just puts them out to pasture . That or just the influx of young talent coming in that will play longer & for less money is a huge consideration when it comes to the cap too . I feel the reason he couldn't find a team was more to do with his outspoken opinion calling out the NFL than his lack of ability or his skills taking a dive . But that's just me . The Giants QB sure isn't Josh either so there is that plus he has to build chemistry with him & that is something that he & Josh already had so it will definitely be a up hill climb for him but i always pull for the under dog so i'll be routing for him . Quote
CoudyBills Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NoSaint said: that’s not the reason at all boss… good try. You are mistaken. 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) On 7/21/2023 at 1:59 PM, billsfan89 said: I thought Beasley looked like he had something left in the tank after his brief run with the team last year. Maybe he isn't going to be the slot machine he once was but as competition for your WR 5/6 slot you could do worse. It also may help the Giants to have a vet WR mentor some of their younger WR's. Not sure if Beasley will make their final roster they have Paris Campbell, Hodgins, 2022 second-round pick Wan'Dale Robinson and a 2023 3rd round pick in Jalin Hyatt who are likely "locks" to make the roster. Then on the bubble you have Crowder and Sterling Sheppard both of whom are a bit younger than Beasley and both of whom will be competing for roster spots as well as some other younger lesser-known players also competing to take a spot at WR 5/6. Adding Beasley in there certainly gives them some options but likely Beasley is competing with Crowder and Sterling Sheppard for one spot. Still glad to see that Beasley is getting a chance and likely will either get offered a spot on the PS if he does decently or will be at the top of the list for an injury signing in season if he shows that he still has something in camp/pre-season. I actually thought Beasley looked painfully slow during games at the end of 2021 and the limited action in 2022. But, possibly he was suffering from lingering effects of playing on a broken leg (2020) and with broken ribs (2021) and will have healed up and returned to form. The Giants could probably have used him last year, but I think 1) he wanted more $$ and 2) he said "I don't want to go to NY." So maybe this off-season he has a more realistic assessment of the interest teams have in him (low) and his value (probably vet min). The competition for Beasley is likely to be Parris Campbell, Wan'Dale Robinson, and FA signing Jamison Crowder. Campbell was primarily a slot receiver with the Ponies. He signed a 1 year, $4.7M contract with $2.9M guaranteed, so that kind of gives him an edge in that race - although, some Giants media are saying he'll see reps at RB in camp? (?!!!!). Crowder is on a vet salary benefit contract with $52k in workout and signing bonuses. I would expect Beasley to be on a similar VSB contract with little guaranteed, and that both of them won't make it. The fact that Wan'Dale Robinson is this Giants regimes 2nd round pick, and that Campbell has $2.9 guaranteed if you cut him or don't, would probably give them the leg(s) up. I could be wrong but I see Hyatt, Sheppard, and Hodgins as their outside WR. I'm not sure Beasley wants to be on a practice squad through the season. Edited July 23, 2023 by Beck Water Quote
Chas56 Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 3 hours ago, tomur67 said: I can’t understand the hatred for Beas. Just because he had a different opinion about Covid than you did is a pretty lame reason to hate the the guy. There were many prominent people who had the same opinion as he did, including many in the medical field. For two seasons, he was an integral reason for Josh’s success. Best of luck Beas! For me, it wasn't that he had a different take on Covid. It's that he talked about which caused division, and that it was detrimental to the team. I know players sometimes have different opinions about injuries and treatment or playing through them, which he did. He just should have shut up. 2 2 Quote
NoSaint Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, CoudyBills said: You are mistaken. covid was just an opportunity for him to be a dramatic distraction. he has said numerous times social media is bad for him and he should stay off it, as an example of him being dysfunctional in that regard. it was about the approach he took, not his specific medical hot takes had it been covid only we could roll today but he is still the same human who can’t help himself in attention seeking Edited July 23, 2023 by NoSaint 3 2 Quote
JohnNord Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/21/2023 at 2:59 PM, billsfan89 said: I thought Beasley looked like he had something left in the tank after his brief run with the team last year. Maybe he isn't going to be the slot machine he once was but as competition for your WR 5/6 slot you could do worse. It also may help the Giants to have a vet WR mentor some of their younger WR's. Not sure if Beasley will make their final roster they have Paris Campbell, Hodgins, 2022 second-round pick Wan'Dale Robinson and a 2023 3rd round pick in Jalin Hyatt who are likely "locks" to make the roster. Then on the bubble you have Crowder and Sterling Sheppard both of whom are a bit younger than Beasley and both of whom will be competing for roster spots as well as some other younger lesser-known players also competing to take a spot at WR 5/6. Adding Beasley in there certainly gives them some options but likely Beasley is competing with Crowder and Sterling Sheppard for one spot. Still glad to see that Beasley is getting a chance and likely will either get offered a spot on the PS if he does decently or will be at the top of the list for an injury signing in season if he shows that he still has something in camp/pre-season. Not being facetious here, but how did he show he had something left in the tank? When he signed with Tampa he caught 2 very short passes in the 2 game he played. Once he signed with Buffalo, the only catch of relevance he made was the nice catch and run against Miami. But he also failed to make a challenging, but not impossible catch versus Cincinnati. I think we were all hoping he’d make an impact last winter, but it never really happened. I think Beasley can still find the soft spots in a defense as good as any slot WR. I do wonder if he still can do it physically. There was questions about it before last season, and nothing I watched changed this 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 Daboll figures he turned Dimey Jones into 22 TD (total) QB, then he certainly can apply that Dabes AED to Beasley's career as well! 1 Quote
FLFan Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 I appreciate Beasleys accomplishments for two years here that were outstanding and integral to their success. I also appreciate that in 2021 he looked on the decline and they were right to move in from him, especially given his continued distraction. He made one significant play in his redux here last year and other than that was immaterial to detrimental. Even given his less than stellar showing in limited action here he could not help himself in trashing the Bills this offseason. I could not care less what happens to him at this point. Good luck to the Giants. One advantage I suppose is is that Daniel Jones’ effective range of about 4 yards from scrimmage fits in with Beasleys geriatric skill set quite well. 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 the giants have two wr returning from injuries and will be brought along slowly in camp. beasley is just a body to get them through camp and robinson and shepard are healthy i imagine. beasley looked done last time he played. 1 hour ago, FLFan said: I appreciate Beasleys accomplishments for two years here that were outstanding and integral to their success. I also appreciate that in 2021 he looked on the decline and they were right to move in from him, especially given his continued distraction. He made one significant play in his redux here last year and other than that was immaterial to detrimental. Even given his less than stellar showing in limited action here he could not help himself in trashing the Bills this offseason. I could not care less what happens to him at this point. Good luck to the Giants. One advantage I suppose is is that Daniel Jones’ effective range of about 4 yards from scrimmage fits in with Beasleys geriatric skill set quite well. jones throws a great deep ball. 1 Quote
FLFan Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: jones throws a great deep ball. That may be, but his 6.8 yards per attempt in 2022, good for 24th in the league, would argue against the effectiveness of that ability. Cole Beasley will not help that stat, which is the point. Quote
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