Nephilim17 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 i'm feeling very optimistic. No way this team misses the playoffs. No. Freaking. Way. 3 Quote
corta765 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 As long as Josh is healthy and in his prime I feel fine that they will make the playoffs every year with a shot at the SB. Even last year when the Bills were the SB favs their odds were like 12% to go the distance. Brady & Rodgers both won SBs as a WC, Stafford and the Rams were the 4 seed in 2021-22 and went the distance. Take Brady out of the equation and you realize almost all the top QBs since the 90s who get a ring needed a little luck or right situation (or both) when their time comes. This years Bills roster is almost equal on paper minus Edmunds gone and the offense right now I feel better with then last year. Division is tougher as is the AFC, but playoffs still should be an absolute. After that its where fortune and Allen can take us. Quote
loyal2dagame Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 These conversations are getting old. The Bills will be a better team than they were last season. They will easily win the East. Their record may slide a game or 2, but they will be better overall. In 2023 the Bills will have: a fully healthy Josh Allen, a fully healthy Tre White, and a fully healthy Hyde and Poyer. We'll get Von Miller back for the stretch run. Dorsey will no longer be a 1st year play caller, and McDermott is calling the D. This garbage has to stop. How did the Bills in any way, other that losing in the second round of the playoffs, display ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES TAKING A STEP BACKWARDS last year? Let's get real. Haters gonna hate. Hey, by the way, if we didn't have so many blowouts in the beginning of the season, and have the Hamlin game cancelled we would most likely have had the #1 offense in the NFL. How's that for the Dorsey nay sayers. Yeah, the Bills are trending down 4 Quote
Nextmanup Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 I have consistently said we are in for a regression year for many reasons, not the least of which is our main competitors have moved ahead of us and we were behind them to begin with. I expect us to make the playoffs, but not make it to the AFC Championship game. Even if you look at the Patriots with BB and Brady in their PRIME...every year was not "the year" for them either. There are going to be ups and downs along the road of Josh's career. I see this as a moderately down year. 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 The only way this team misses the playoffs is if Kyle Allen starts 6 games or more 1 Quote
muppy Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Has noone offered the football gods any atoning sacrifices to ensure Victory this season? my snarky point being that the variables that go into winning in the NFL are many. 2 that come to mind are health of the roster and Officiating snafu- blunders that affect the final outcome in games. there are zero gimme games in the NFL. The Bills roster is sacked and lets say I think we have an excellent Chance. with a bit of luck and a prayer to those danged football gods. Edited July 20, 2023 by muppy Quote
Nextmanup Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: The odds of any team winning the SB are less than 20%. On the other hand, one or two key injuries could make this a team around middle of the pack and in turn, easily miss the playoffs. In fairness, any team in the league is always 1 QB season ending injury away from having a terrible season. But I know what you mean here. I want to see what the Jets are all about. We might have trouble winning the division this year. Or we might not. Quote
JerseyBills Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Wow. We upgraded almost every position group after a 13 win season. Only 1 bad L. Anyone thinking we miss the playoffs is delusional Quote
Fleezoid Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: The only way this team misses the playoffs is if Kyle Allen starts 6 games or more Agreed. However, it may only take 4 or 5 to push the Bills out. I also agree with the thought that Bills are their own worst enemy. Since Josh's arrival, The Bills screwed themselves in every playoff game, except perhaps the KC AFCCG where they were mostly outplayed. They also shot themselves in the foot in a couple of regular season games, aka Vikings. They may not win the division, but I fully expect they'll be in the playoffs. I'm just wondering what this year's playoff thing will be. And what will everyone label it. Quote
brianb386 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 This is all an overreaction to a lousy playoff game. We may not win the AFC championship, but we will not be missing the playoffs. 1 3 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: i'm feeling very optimistic. No way this team misses the playoffs. No. Freaking. Way. Same. I have a strange optimism this season that I did not have last. Quote
Nephilim17 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Same. I have a strange optimism this season that I did not have last. Good, but it's not strange: Hyde is back; White should be fully healed (or as good as he's going to get); Miller will be playing most of the season; we have bruising running backs for short yardage; we have an improved O-line; we have a phenomenal short to intermediate threat in Kincaid; McD will call a more aggressive D; we have WR upgrades over McKenzie; Josh should be healed and should be playing smarter this year; we have a new 10-sack lineman in his prime. There's lots to love about this year's team. I'm willing to make a bet with anyone who foolishly claims we won't win at least 11 games. I think 12 is far more likely and possibly 13. Edited July 20, 2023 by Nephilim17 2 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 I'm a little apprehensive. I think this team is truly right there with the Chiefs, Eagles and Bengals if our older stars can stay relatively healthy this season. But again, we are dependent on major production from a lot of players that are nearing 30 or are already on the wrong side of it. And as Josh stacks seasons under his belt and racks up hits on his body, the potential for injury or physical decline increases. This year feels like a "now or never" moment, before we have to go into a bit of rebuild period. Quote
pennstate10 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Per DraftKings, Bills are +500 to win the AFC. In others words, DraftKings is saying the Bills have a 20% chance of making it to the SuperBowl. Do the Bills have a 20% chance of missing the playoffs? I don’t think so, my guess is about a 10% chance of missing the playoffs. If they get a rash of key injuries and bad bounces. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Per DraftKings, Bills are +500 to win the AFC. In others words, DraftKings is saying the Bills have a 20% chance of making it to the SuperBowl. Do the Bills have a 20% chance of missing the playoffs? I don’t think so, my guess is about a 10% chance of missing the playoffs. If they get a rash of key injuries and bad bounces. That's not what that means 2 Quote
Augie Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 7 hours ago, zow2 said: There are some National talking heads that have the Bills on the decline...mainly due to other teams rising up in the AFC and Buffalo's tough schedule. For whatever reason, while still respected, the Bills are not a sexy pick this season to do much of anything. Does the fanbase feel they have a better chance at playing in the Super Bowl? or not making the playoffs? I know most of us here are homers... and personally I'd be more surprised if they miss the playoffs. The O looks to be really solid, the D is a question for me and how effectively McDermott tweaks it. We were a little too sexy for our own good last year. We’re a playoff team and probably win the AFCE. I hope we peak for the playoffs rather than do it in reverse like we did last year. I’d rather be sexy when the playoffs roll around and skip the attention right now. 3 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) I would bet a lot of money against them winning the AFC championship game (barring an injury to Mahomes/Burrow), but I also think there's no way they miss the playoffs. With the playoffs increasing to 7 seeds plus a 17th game, they would have to lose Allen for most of the year for that to happen and even then. More seeds+more games gives a massive edge to better than average teams and even on a decline the bills are certainly in the top 20% of the NFL. A Better proposition might be more likely to win AFC championship game or lose the division. Int hat case I'd pick lose the division, even if I think it's likely they win the AFCE and get bounced by the Bengals or Chiefs in the playoffs again. Edited July 20, 2023 by BullBuchanan Quote
MJS Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Both are unlikely. The Bills will most likely make the playoffs, though. 1 Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, pennstate10 said: Per DraftKings, Bills are +500 to win the AFC. In others words, DraftKings is saying the Bills have a 20% chance of making it to the SuperBowl. Do the Bills have a 20% chance of missing the playoffs? I don’t think so, my guess is about a 10% chance of missing the playoffs. If they get a rash of key injuries and bad bounces. So THATS what that means! All this time I've been betting wrong. Quote
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