ALF Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 If cost overruns are too high and switching from Delaware North to Legends was not approved by Terry that could be it.
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 14 hours ago, Lost said: Terry probably already found out there is going to be massive cost overruns that he is going to be on the hook for and Ron is the scapegoat. That's my off the wall hypothesis I’d bet on this scenario. If there’s massive cost overruns now, imagine the overruns a year down the road. Back to metal benches and peeing in pig troughs 😂 1
Dan Darragh Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 12 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: I think that it is safe to say, that Bills purchase by the Pegula's, has already generated considerable Equity. I'd wager that on paper, they have at the very least, doubled their money. Perhaps, more. Why part with a very astute, and lucrative investment? Oh, you mean THAT kind of equity. I'll wait a few minutes for my blood pressure to come back down. 1
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 8 hours ago, first_and_ten said: Does it trouble anyone here that the new president of the Buffalo Bills is Terry Pegula? Heard he’s bringing back Jeff Littman to handle player contracts … ack to the good ole days of “cash to the cap” 1
SectionC3 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, davefan66 said: If his job was to get the stadium project to this point, then we’ll done and wish him well. If there are other defections, that’s when I’ll worry. This may have been the plan all along and he was well aware. It doesn't sound like it based on the tenor of the press release and the fact that it happened on a Wednesday. The whole thing is odd.
Gregg Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, first_and_ten said: Does it trouble anyone here that the new president of the Buffalo Bills is Terry Pegula? Not really. As it pertains to football moves like FA, draft, shaping the roster, coaching hires/fires it's McBeane calling the shots.
PBF81 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: It doesn't sound like it based on the tenor of the press release and the fact that it happened on a Wednesday. The whole thing is odd. Agreed Terry's specific words were about improving the management team. This is going to be a very interesting season. These management changes with Terry now more involved (I don't see how that's a good thing), people hired that it's questionable what they're backgrounds bring positively to the table, and a coaching staff the top of which that's essentially the Carolina coaching staff from McD's days. IMO it's either all going to shine or it's all going to flop. If the latter, Allen of course will cover a multitude of sins. 10 hours ago, first_and_ten said: Does it trouble anyone here that the new president of the Buffalo Bills is Terry Pegula? Yes, that, A. B, some of the seeming reasons why they brought in a few of the new people aren't inspiring either. C, the top of our coaching staff, all the key game day decision-makers, are essentially the coaching staff from Carolina while McD was there. Again, concerning.
PBF81 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, RunTheBall said: You won’t hear from Kim again unfortunately but her influence was not nearly what this board likes to pretend. Who cares that this guy got fired? Terry has the bucks, Terry makes the decisions (good or bad). Doesn’t matter who has the President title nothing is getting done with out the owner’s blessing. I'm not sure that anyone's apologetic towards Raccuia, rather concerned that Terry & (new) company seem to be moving closer to the football stuff. Probably unfounded concerns, but given the Sabres definitely something to monitor.
SectionC3 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Agreed Terry's specific words were about improving the management team. This is going to be a very interesting season. These management changes with Terry now more involved (I don't see how that's a good thing), people hired that it's questionable what they're backgrounds bring positively to the table, and a coaching staff the top of which that's essentially the Carolina coaching staff from McD's days. IMO it's either all going to shine or it's all going to flop. If the latter, Allen of course will cover a multitude of sins. I have some questions about the management move. There's a big trial that's going to occur in federal court here. Someone's family has prior connections to at least one of the defendants in that trial. Then there's this big construction project going on here. That much is pure speculation on my part. But I also think, watching the pressers, that someone forgot who the big dog was in the arrangement and may have outgrown his britches. On the other side of it, a recent low-level ADA who butchered the Araiza situation now is GC and on the management team. So I don't know what to think, other than none of it gives me confidence. 1
PBF81 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 7 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Just laughing at all the conspiracies in this thread. Now seems like a perfectly logical time for Raccuia to depart - he got his biggest, most important project, the new stadium, over the finish line. Construction’s underway. He’s on to his next thing. can we PLEASE spell the guy’s name right? At least in the title? Why would Terry specifically say that his departure was to improve the management team then? Seems odd phrasing given what you said. 1
Gregg Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: I'm not sure that anyone's apologetic towards Raccuia, rather concerned that Terry & (new) company seem to be moving closer to the football stuff. Probably unfounded concerns, but given the Sabres definitely something to monitor. On the plus side the Sabres look like much brighter days are ahead starting this season. 1
LabattBlue Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 I don’t know any of the facts leading to this parting of the ways, but I would bet the house that this was “not the plan all along” as a few have suggested. 1 3
PBF81 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I have some questions about the management move. There's a big trial that's going to occur in federal court here. Someone's family has prior connections to at least one of the defendants in that trial. Then there's this big construction project going on here. That much is pure speculation on my part. But I also think, watching the pressers, that someone forgot who the big dog was in the arrangement and may have outgrown his britches. On the other side of it, a recent low-level ADA who butchered the Araiza situation now is GC and on the management team. So I don't know what to think, other than none of it gives me confidence. Yeah, like I said, seems as if they hired several people, none of which I look at the reasons started as to why they were hired inspiring anything positive. Thanks for the insights. What's the trial about?
JoPoy88 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Why would Terry specifically say that his departure was to improve the management team then? Seems odd phrasing given what you said. I’m not speculating on Terry’s reasoning at all, and I’m not going to based on one phrase in a press statement. I was just commenting on the timing alone - it doesn’t seem that outlandish or suspicious to me. I’m sure the beat reporters and journalists will dig up something to shed light on the exact why.
PBF81 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: On the plus side the Sabres look like much brighter days are ahead starting this season. Looks can be deceiving. That haven't made the playoffs on Terry's ownership watch except in his first season on residual from that season. It's easily been the darkest era of Sabres franchise history. But maybe. I'm not willing to let the people involved there get closer to the Bills.
JoPoy88 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Looks can be deceiving. That haven't made the playoffs on Terry's ownership watch except in his first season on residual from that season. It's easily been the darkest era of Sabres franchise history. But maybe. I'm not willing to let the people involved there get closer to the Bills. well prepare to be disappointed because the COO from over on that side might be taking that role for the Bills too.
PBF81 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: I’m not speculating on Terry’s reasoning at all, and I’m not going to based on one phrase in a press statement. OK At the same time, it was anything but complimentary phrasing, to ignore that also makes little sense. i.e. It was hardly a ceremonious positive send-off. Either way, to have Terry now significantly closer to the football decisions, when he himself has more or less stated a lack of qualifications (or interest) for doing so, is hardly inspiring. Spin it contrarily off you wish. 2
Gregg Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Looks can be deceiving. That haven't made the playoffs on Terry's ownership watch except in his first season on residual from that season. It's easily been the darkest era of Sabres franchise history. But maybe. I'm not willing to let the people involved there get closer to the Bills. I agree ownership should never get involved in the day-to-day operations. As long as Beane and McDermott are making the football related decisions then that is all that matters. The Sabres darkest era is coming to an end. 42-33-7 for 91 points last season. They have one of the best forward groups in the league led by Tage Thompson. There will be playoff hockey next spring in WNY. 1
PBF81 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: well prepare to be disappointed because the COO from over on that side might be taking that role for the Bills too. Hence my statements. It is what it is. Again, I and obviously some others don't find it to be inspiring. 1
JoPoy88 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: OK At the same time, it was anything but complimentary phrasing, to ignore that also makes little sense. i.e. It was hardly a ceremonious positive send-off. Either way, to have Terry now significantly closer to the football decisions, when he himself has more or less stated a lack of qualifications (or interest) for doing so, is hardly inspiring. Spin it contrarily off you wish. No I’m not disagreeing with you or anyone else on the phrasing - it certainly wasn’t “warm.” 1
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