RiotAct Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, JohnNord said: https://theathletic.com/4738337/2023/08/05/buffalo-bills-front-office-ron-raccuia/?source=user_shared_article Graham also mentioned that PSE is on the hook for overages, and it appears the new stadium could cost nearly 500,000M more than the original estimate Raccuia put together. Again, something he might have not been happy with. damn, 500 billion dollars? That’s a lot of scratch! Must be solid gold buffalo statues out front. Edited August 5, 2023 by RiotAct spelling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 I really don't think the overrun had much to do with it. Be it $500M or whatever it runs it's not actually coming out of Terry's pocket. The money he has to front will be reflected in the final prices for tickets, PSLs, concession and souvenir items. In the end WE are the ones that will be reimbursing those funds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, RiotAct said: damn, 500 billion dollars? That’s a lot of scratch! Must be solid gold buffalo statues out front. Nope. Gold urinal tubs to replace the old ones. I heard they drew the line at fluff era in each stall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Just saw this I guess I have been busy this summer. Was it a billboard that got him?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 I have no comment on Ron Raccuia. As for PSE when it comes to the new Bills stadium nothing I say is going to matter when it comes to the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Seeing is going to be when Buffalo Bills fans like myself and others vocal critics of the new Buffalo Bills stadium will be proven right about our current ownership PSE and our Western New York representatives. Time isn’t going to reflect well on PSE ownership or our Western New York representatives. Again I agree we need a new Buffalo Bills stadium. Where I disagree is middling the new Buffalo Bills stadium and not putting real events in the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Barbie and Ken Bills fan getting married in the new Buffalo Bills stadium isn’t a real event for the Bills stadium it’s ridiculous is what it is. Real tenants like a Buffalo MLS team or a Buffalo WNBA team for Key Bank Center not garbage junk that doesn’t make Western New York quality of life better. Better for Barbie and Ken yes but that’s about it. Sadly we don’t have enough Buffalo fans speak up and unfortunately they will speak up but when it’s too late. MLS ever expands to Pittsburgh and Cleveland it’s like MLB baseball in Buffalo all over. Same if WNBA goes to Toronto it’s all over for Buffalo WNBA ever. We need a Western New York sports commissions that is volunteer group of people to lobby for Western New York behalf when it comes to sports. We don’t do that while other areas do. Miami just got a MLR rugby franchise the Miami Sharks. Buffalo can’t even get a Buffalo MLR rugby franchise. Only stubborn people that are in total denial about Western New York will say ban Buffalo fans from telling the truth about our representatives how Western New York is getting screwed with no real betterment in the future because of poor leadership. We have some Bills fans that are in fantasy land if they think middling the new Bills stadium is going to keep the Bills tickets prices down it won’t. My point has always been Buffalo Western New York should have nice things not middling it. Again with this stadium we should have had a Buffalo MLS team with the new stadium. Why? Why because there is no MLB baseball in Buffalo. There is no MLS in Cleveland or Pittsburgh. Buffalo MLS would have a huge territory to draw soccer fans from that aren’t served by MLS now. This whole new stadium situation is a giant missed opportunity for Western New York. I want to hear the Buffalo Bills fans excuses why Buffalo couldn’t support MLS or MLR in a new Bills stadium with a open area from Pittsburgh to Cleveland to Rochester and Syracuse? You can’t explain away with excuses except a cheap PSE ownership with Western New York representatives not demanding better for Western New York. This is a Western New York area that once got two major league teams in a year in 1970 NHL Buffalo Sabres and NBA Buffalo Braves. Today Western New York can’t even get MLS soccer team in a state of the art soccer stadium with a huge open territory with no major league sports teams in the summer in Buffalo. We don’t even try for MLS in Buffalo we get what we voted for representatives wise and accept middling junk from PSE. For the money taxpayers put up the Benefits Agreement should have been Buffalo MLS from PSE. We don’t even get WNBA expansion for Key Bank Center PSE is a disgrace. No Buffalo MLR rugby franchise but Miami with tons of teams that aren’t supported very well just got another new Miami franchise. Yet all I hear is Western New York is happening how? I want to hear our Buffalo Bills experts that think I am totally wrong expand why Western New York can’t afford a Buffalo MLR rugby franchise and how PSE is the best owners ever to have total control of both our major league buildings Highmark Stadium 2 and Key Bank Center with nothing in it besides the Buffalo Bills, Sabres and Bandits? I am on record PSE are terrible owners and so are our Western New York representatives neither that are forward thinking for Western New York while Miami gets more and more every year. I am getting my popcorn ready for the excuses this should be a fun read in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, I am leaving for good said: I have no comment on Ron Raccuia. As for PSE when it comes to the new Bills stadium nothing I say is going to matter when it comes to the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Seeing is going to be when Buffalo Bills fans like myself and others vocal critics of the new Buffalo Bills stadium will be proven right about our current ownership PSE and our Western New York representatives. Time isn’t going to reflect well on PSE ownership or our Western New York representatives. Again I agree we need a new Buffalo Bills stadium. Where I disagree is middling the new Buffalo Bills stadium and not putting real events in the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Barbie and Ken Bills fan getting married in the new Buffalo Bills stadium isn’t a real event for the Bills stadium it’s ridiculous is what it is. Real tenants like a Buffalo MLS team or a Buffalo WNBA team for Key Bank Center not garbage junk that doesn’t make Western New York quality of life better. Better for Barbie and Ken yes but that’s about it. Sadly we don’t have enough Buffalo fans speak up and unfortunately they will speak up but when it’s too late. MLS ever expands to Pittsburgh and Cleveland it’s like MLB baseball in Buffalo all over. Same if WNBA goes to Toronto it’s all over for Buffalo WNBA ever. We need a Western New York sports commissions that is volunteer group of people to lobby for Western New York behalf when it comes to sports. We don’t do that while other areas do. Miami just got a MLR rugby franchise the Miami Sharks. Buffalo can’t even get a Buffalo MLR rugby franchise. Only stubborn people that are in total denial about Western New York will say ban Buffalo fans from telling the truth about our representatives how Western New York is getting screwed with no real betterment in the future because of poor leadership. We have some Bills fans that are in fantasy land if they think middling the new Bills stadium is going to keep the Bills tickets prices down it won’t. My point has always been Buffalo Western New York should have nice things not middling it. Again with this stadium we should have had a Buffalo MLS team with the new stadium. Why? Why because there is no MLB baseball in Buffalo. There is no MLS in Cleveland or Pittsburgh. Buffalo MLS would have a huge territory to draw soccer fans from that aren’t served by MLS now. This whole new stadium situation is a giant missed opportunity for Western New York. I want to hear the Buffalo Bills fans excuses why Buffalo couldn’t support MLS or MLR in a new Bills stadium with a open area from Pittsburgh to Cleveland to Rochester and Syracuse? You can’t explain away with excuses except a cheap PSE ownership with Western New York representatives not demanding better for Western New York. This is a Western New York area that once got two major league teams in a year in 1970 NHL Buffalo Sabres and NBA Buffalo Braves. Today Western New York can’t even get MLS soccer team in a state of the art soccer stadium with a huge open territory with no major league sports teams in the summer in Buffalo. We don’t even try for MLS in Buffalo we get what we voted for representatives wise and accept middling junk from PSE. For the money taxpayers put up the Benefits Agreement should have been Buffalo MLS from PSE. We don’t even get WNBA expansion for Key Bank Center PSE is a disgrace. No Buffalo MLR rugby franchise but Miami with tons of teams that aren’t supported very well just got another new Miami franchise. Yet all I hear is Western New York is happening how? I want to hear our Buffalo Bills experts that think I am totally wrong expand why Western New York can’t afford a Buffalo MLR rugby franchise and how PSE is the best owners ever to have total control of both our major league buildings Highmark Stadium 2 and Key Bank Center with nothing in it besides the Buffalo Bills, Sabres and Bandits? I am on record PSE are terrible owners and so are our Western New York representatives neither that are forward thinking for Western New York while Miami gets more and more every year. I am getting my popcorn ready for the excuses this should be a fun read in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Good god… 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, I am leaving for good said: I have no comment on Ron Raccuia. As for PSE when it comes to the new Bills stadium nothing I say is going to matter when it comes to the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Seeing is going to be when Buffalo Bills fans like myself and others vocal critics of the new Buffalo Bills stadium will be proven right about our current ownership PSE and our Western New York representatives. Time isn’t going to reflect well on PSE ownership or our Western New York representatives. Again I agree we need a new Buffalo Bills stadium. Where I disagree is middling the new Buffalo Bills stadium and not putting real events in the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Barbie and Ken Bills fan getting married in the new Buffalo Bills stadium isn’t a real event for the Bills stadium it’s ridiculous is what it is. Real tenants like a Buffalo MLS team or a Buffalo WNBA team for Key Bank Center not garbage junk that doesn’t make Western New York quality of life better. Better for Barbie and Ken yes but that’s about it. Sadly we don’t have enough Buffalo fans speak up and unfortunately they will speak up but when it’s too late. MLS ever expands to Pittsburgh and Cleveland it’s like MLB baseball in Buffalo all over. Same if WNBA goes to Toronto it’s all over for Buffalo WNBA ever. We need a Western New York sports commissions that is volunteer group of people to lobby for Western New York behalf when it comes to sports. We don’t do that while other areas do. Miami just got a MLR rugby franchise the Miami Sharks. Buffalo can’t even get a Buffalo MLR rugby franchise. Only stubborn people that are in total denial about Western New York will say ban Buffalo fans from telling the truth about our representatives how Western New York is getting screwed with no real betterment in the future because of poor leadership. We have some Bills fans that are in fantasy land if they think middling the new Bills stadium is going to keep the Bills tickets prices down it won’t. My point has always been Buffalo Western New York should have nice things not middling it. Again with this stadium we should have had a Buffalo MLS team with the new stadium. Why? Why because there is no MLB baseball in Buffalo. There is no MLS in Cleveland or Pittsburgh. Buffalo MLS would have a huge territory to draw soccer fans from that aren’t served by MLS now. This whole new stadium situation is a giant missed opportunity for Western New York. I want to hear the Buffalo Bills fans excuses why Buffalo couldn’t support MLS or MLR in a new Bills stadium with a open area from Pittsburgh to Cleveland to Rochester and Syracuse? You can’t explain away with excuses except a cheap PSE ownership with Western New York representatives not demanding better for Western New York. This is a Western New York area that once got two major league teams in a year in 1970 NHL Buffalo Sabres and NBA Buffalo Braves. Today Western New York can’t even get MLS soccer team in a state of the art soccer stadium with a huge open territory with no major league sports teams in the summer in Buffalo. We don’t even try for MLS in Buffalo we get what we voted for representatives wise and accept middling junk from PSE. For the money taxpayers put up the Benefits Agreement should have been Buffalo MLS from PSE. We don’t even get WNBA expansion for Key Bank Center PSE is a disgrace. No Buffalo MLR rugby franchise but Miami with tons of teams that aren’t supported very well just got another new Miami franchise. Yet all I hear is Western New York is happening how? I want to hear our Buffalo Bills experts that think I am totally wrong expand why Western New York can’t afford a Buffalo MLR rugby franchise and how PSE is the best owners ever to have total control of both our major league buildings Highmark Stadium 2 and Key Bank Center with nothing in it besides the Buffalo Bills, Sabres and Bandits? I am on record PSE are terrible owners and so are our Western New York representatives neither that are forward thinking for Western New York while Miami gets more and more every year. I am getting my popcorn ready for the excuses this should be a fun read in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo We don't care 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, Draconator said: We don't care I can’t say for sure, because I have other things to do this afternoon and didn’t take time to read all that. It looked daunting. Anyone care to provide Cliff Notes? Gotta go check on Spencer Brown now…… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 44 minutes ago, I am leaving for good said: I have no comment on Ron Raccuia. As for PSE when it comes to the new Bills stadium nothing I say is going to matter when it comes to the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Seeing is going to be when Buffalo Bills fans like myself and others vocal critics of the new Buffalo Bills stadium will be proven right about our current ownership PSE and our Western New York representatives. Time isn’t going to reflect well on PSE ownership or our Western New York representatives. Again I agree we need a new Buffalo Bills stadium. Where I disagree is middling the new Buffalo Bills stadium and not putting real events in the new Buffalo Bills stadium. Barbie and Ken Bills fan getting married in the new Buffalo Bills stadium isn’t a real event for the Bills stadium it’s ridiculous is what it is. Real tenants like a Buffalo MLS team or a Buffalo WNBA team for Key Bank Center not garbage junk that doesn’t make Western New York quality of life better. Better for Barbie and Ken yes but that’s about it. Sadly we don’t have enough Buffalo fans speak up and unfortunately they will speak up but when it’s too late. MLS ever expands to Pittsburgh and Cleveland it’s like MLB baseball in Buffalo all over. Same if WNBA goes to Toronto it’s all over for Buffalo WNBA ever. We need a Western New York sports commissions that is volunteer group of people to lobby for Western New York behalf when it comes to sports. We don’t do that while other areas do. Miami just got a MLR rugby franchise the Miami Sharks. Buffalo can’t even get a Buffalo MLR rugby franchise. Only stubborn people that are in total denial about Western New York will say ban Buffalo fans from telling the truth about our representatives how Western New York is getting screwed with no real betterment in the future because of poor leadership. We have some Bills fans that are in fantasy land if they think middling the new Bills stadium is going to keep the Bills tickets prices down it won’t. My point has always been Buffalo Western New York should have nice things not middling it. Again with this stadium we should have had a Buffalo MLS team with the new stadium. Why? Why because there is no MLB baseball in Buffalo. There is no MLS in Cleveland or Pittsburgh. Buffalo MLS would have a huge territory to draw soccer fans from that aren’t served by MLS now. This whole new stadium situation is a giant missed opportunity for Western New York. I want to hear the Buffalo Bills fans excuses why Buffalo couldn’t support MLS or MLR in a new Bills stadium with a open area from Pittsburgh to Cleveland to Rochester and Syracuse? You can’t explain away with excuses except a cheap PSE ownership with Western New York representatives not demanding better for Western New York. This is a Western New York area that once got two major league teams in a year in 1970 NHL Buffalo Sabres and NBA Buffalo Braves. Today Western New York can’t even get MLS soccer team in a state of the art soccer stadium with a huge open territory with no major league sports teams in the summer in Buffalo. We don’t even try for MLS in Buffalo we get what we voted for representatives wise and accept middling junk from PSE. For the money taxpayers put up the Benefits Agreement should have been Buffalo MLS from PSE. We don’t even get WNBA expansion for Key Bank Center PSE is a disgrace. No Buffalo MLR rugby franchise but Miami with tons of teams that aren’t supported very well just got another new Miami franchise. Yet all I hear is Western New York is happening how? I want to hear our Buffalo Bills experts that think I am totally wrong expand why Western New York can’t afford a Buffalo MLR rugby franchise and how PSE is the best owners ever to have total control of both our major league buildings Highmark Stadium 2 and Key Bank Center with nothing in it besides the Buffalo Bills, Sabres and Bandits? I am on record PSE are terrible owners and so are our Western New York representatives neither that are forward thinking for Western New York while Miami gets more and more every year. I am getting my popcorn ready for the excuses this should be a fun read in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo You want to host MLS and Rugby in the new 60,000 seat stadium? 😂😂😂 Where are the attendance numbers to back that up, or are you okay with 5-10k for soccer and a few hundred for rugby in this huge stadium? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Augie said: Anyone care to provide Cliff Notes? I hate the Pegulas. I hate Buffalo sports teams' marketing. I hate how all Buffalo sports franchises are run. Go Biils. Go Sabres. Go Bisons. Go Beauts. Let's Go Buffalo. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Draconator said: I hate the Pegulas. I hate Buffalo sports teams' marketing. I hate how all Buffalo sports franchises are run. Go Biils. Go Sabres. Go Bisons. Go Beauts. Let's Go Buffalo. So……….the usual. Got it. Thx. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Draconator said: I hate the Pegulas. I hate Buffalo sports teams' marketing. I hate how all Buffalo sports franchises are run. Go Biils. Go Sabres. Go Bisons. Go Beauts. Let's Go Buffalo. Basically this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 500 mil increase in cost from an estimate from several years ago, or a 500 mil increase above and beyond the 1.4 stadium estimate of this year? Big difference as PSE is on the hook for the latter. Edited August 5, 2023 by LabattBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, Draconator said: I hate the Pegulas. I hate Buffalo sports teams' marketing. I hate how all Buffalo sports franchises are run. Go Biils. Go Sabres. Go Bisons. Go Beauts. Let's Go Buffalo. You forgot UB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You forgot UB. Tell me your brain didn't hurt from reading that post. I get a mulligan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said: Good god… One too many mimosas at brunch today. Get OFF my lawn!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, I am leaving for good said: I have no comment on Ron Raccuia. I quit reading after the first sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 48 minutes ago, Draconator said: Tell me your brain didn't hurt from reading that post. I get a mulligan. Oh I stopped reading his essays long ago. But I know he also graces UBfan.com with his wisdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Augie said: I can’t say for sure, because I have other things to do this afternoon and didn’t take time to read all that. It looked daunting. Anyone care to provide Cliff Notes? Gotta go check on Spencer Brown now…… we have missed the boat on a world class WNBA franchise. I am not sure that will be received how he expects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Augie said: I can’t say for sure, because I have other things to do this afternoon and didn’t take time to read all that. It looked daunting. Anyone care to provide Cliff Notes? Gotta go check on Spencer Brown now…… Well I'm not sure, but I think the Cliff Notes are "the plans for the new stadium suck because it isn't designed for MLS and rugby." Honorable mention to Ken and Barbie as apparent Bills fans, News to Me 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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