starrymessenger Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Even if you are not, Shorter's a 5rh round shot to nothing who is a very able special teamer. Mims was a very early 2nd rounder who can do nothing but run fast in straight lines. Sure plus Shorter is a humble kid with a good attitude. I'm hoping he can develop. Quote
maddenboy Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) maybe the only thing mathematially smaller would be a conditional swap of 7th round picks in 2025. JETS WIN! JETS WIN! JETS WIN! the offseason. They just magically turned a 7th rounder in 2057 into a 6th (this year, sounds like) Edited July 20, 2023 by maddenboy 1 Quote
Airseven Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, maddenboy said: maybe the only thing mathematially smaller would be a conditional swap of 7th round picks in 2025. JETS WIN! JETS WIN! JETS WIN! the offseason. They just magically turned a 7th rounder in 2057 into a 6th (this year, sounds like) Nothing wrong with salvaging a shred of value for a player you’re just about to cut. 2 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Airseven said: Nothing wrong with salvaging a shred of value for a player you’re just about to cut. Except they wasted an early second round pick on said player only 3 drafts ago. Quote
newcam2012 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Bills could have picked him up for nothing. It's not like the WR core is rock solid. Maybe the Jets, wouldn't trade him within the division? Mims might have produced with Allen throwing him the ball. In NY, he never had a solid QB behind him. Edited July 20, 2023 by newcam2012 1 Quote
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, starrymessenger said: Sure plus Shorter is a humble kid with a good attitude. I'm hoping he can develop. Also, Shorter being about .20 seconds slower on the 40 has hopefully made him learn how to use his size to create space for catches and run better routes to get open. Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: So...."Smoke" Brown!! If only he could track the ball as well as Smoke. Quote
Airseven Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 9 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: Except they wasted an early second round pick on said player only 3 drafts ago. A separate issue. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: If only he could track the ball as well as Smoke. Smoke was catching balls at rates of 47, 53, 38, 43% for half of his career (53% total). Caught 1 pass on the last 4 teams he played for. Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Smoke was catching balls at rates of 47, 53, 38, 43% for half of his career (53% total). Caught 1 pass on the last 4 teams he played for. He still tracked the ball better than Mims. He has the ball skills of a baton. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: He still tracked the ball better than Mims. He has the ball skills of a baton. That's a hair I would need an electron microscope to split.. Quote
Utah John Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 The Bills' WR room is stuffed already. Unless the guy's last name is Hopkins, we already have several guys better than anyone available. Quote
RyanC883 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 21 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He is not very good that's why. He is a speed and size guy who can't really play. I was not very high on him coming out. Thought the Jets taking him right at the start of the 2nd round was a reach. why can't he play? poor route running, hands football IQ? do you think proper coaching can fix his issues? Quote
Jauronimo Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Utah John said: The Bills' WR room is stuffed already. Unless the guy's last name is Hopkins, we already have several guys better than anyone available. Bills WR room is stuffed like my money clip. A Franklin on the outside but a bunch of expired coupons and a 7 year old condom on the inside. It stinks! 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Bills WR room is stuffed like my money clip. A Franklin on the outside but a bunch of expired coupons and a 7 year old condom on the inside. It stinks! Only a Bills fan would dare suggest our WR room is "stuffed" with talent. Quote
Jauronimo Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Only a Bills fan would dare suggest our WR room is "stuffed" with talent. We have one elite WR then a bunch of dudes. No one cares about Gabe Davis outside of the 585. Then there's Scherfield, Harty, Shakir, and Shorter. I'm surprised that much mediocrity can even fit in one room. Stuffed I tell ya. Stuffed! Quote
GunnerBill Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: why can't he play? poor route running, hands football IQ? do you think proper coaching can fix his issues? Poor route running, can't track the ball, poor hands, no release package to speak of. He is a bigger guy who runs fast in straight lines. Can you coach it up? To coach all of that up is an ask. 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 12 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Bills could have picked him up for nothing. It's not like the WR core is rock solid. Maybe the Jets, wouldn't trade him within the division? Mims might have produced with Allen throwing him the ball. In NY, he never had a solid QB behind him. I get the thought process, but if they thought so little of him that they were cutting bait before camp opens I highly doubt they would fear trading him within the division. 1 Quote
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