RB$ circling the wagons for fellow RBs

[Beast]

You want to lower the years until a RB becomes an UFA, you have to do it for every position. I don’t want to see that.

[Matt_In_NH]

They can blame data/facts not twitterers

[Gugny]

Boo.  Hoo. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

21 minutes ago, Beast said:

You want to lower the years until a RB becomes an UFA, you have to do it for every position. I don’t want to see that.

I don’t think it’ll happen because it’ll only hurt veteran players, which is why they changed rookie contracts in the first place.

 

There is no fix. QBs and WRs have taken the RBs money. This isn’t going to change.

 

[maddenboy]

5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

To be fair we're only four years away from Zeke getting a 6 year 90 million dollar contract with 50 million guaranteed.  The running backs complaining now didn't know how quickly the position would become devalued growing up.

. . . because otherwise, if they did know, then they woulda done . . . what instead?   That's my whole point.

 

I think the only thing they might have done differently is to manage their own money expectations better.   Because had they decided to make more "business decisions" in light of reduced pay, like stepping out of bounds too early, they woulda been replaced long before today.  It takes what it takes to earn that NFL RB money.

 

You dont get to be an excellent NFL RB if you didnt have potential for it.   So I dont think these RBs would have or could have chosen baseball or track or wrestling or whatever else.  And even if they could have, they decided on NFL RB. 

 

And unfortunately for them, NFL RB is the only position (maybe longsnapper also) where your boss can say "if you dont like it, then quit" and be 100 percent not bluffing.  This is the biggest change resulting from the de-emphasis on the RB himself, and on the use of RBs overall.

 

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Conversely, the changes in the game have probably way increased pay for Nickel CBs.   They are basically starters, now.  At a high value position.

 

Edited July 18, 2023 by maddenboy

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, Beast said:

You want to lower the years until a RB becomes an UFA, you have to do it for every position. I don’t want to see that.

I agree - I suggested it even though it’s a longshot. But it’s something of a solution for these handful of elite backs to consider advocating for instead of just whining and getting into twitter scraps.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

Boo.  Hoo. 

Who? 🤔
😁

Edited July 18, 2023 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[thenorthremembers]

They get paid just fine.   There is always the other option, come join me in the 9-5 game.   Comes with student loan debt (my college degree wasn't free), 2 Chrysler Mini Vans, a decent house in Orleans County NY.   It's not a mansion in South Florida or California  but I'm still  living the dream baby.

 

All jobs get paid according to what the owner of the business is willing to pay.  If you don't like it find a new job.

 

 Please stand back while I play the world's smallest fiddle for these 20 and 30 something millionaires.   They have all the right in the world to protest and complain about it, they also have all the right in the world to be roasted for how tone deaf they come across.

Edited July 18, 2023 by thenorthremembers

[Lost]

Its a weird dynamic going on in the NFL right now.   I've felt like receivers have been getting overpaid in recent years and RBs underpaid.   

 

Statistically, Saquan Barkley had more yards from scrimmage as Stephon Diggs and just as many TDs.  RBs also take a far bigger beating earning those yards and have a lot of added blocking responsibilities the WR doesn't.  Despite this, the new WR contracts going around are like 7 million more per year more than top tier RBs.

[teef]

if bills mafia was ever going to donate to a cause...this is it.

[BuffaloBill]

6 minutes ago, teef said:

if bills mafia was ever going to donate to a cause...this is it.

 

That’s funny ….. but … also warped ….

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

10 minutes ago, Lost said:

Its a weird dynamic going on in the NFL right now.   I've felt like receivers have been getting overpaid in recent years and RBs underpaid.   

 

Statistically, Saquan Barkley had more yards from scrimmage as Stephon Diggs and just as many TDs.  RBs also take a far bigger beating earning those yards and have a lot of added blocking responsibilities the WR doesn't.  Despite this, the new WR contracts going around are like 7 million more per year more than top tier RBs.

3 WR sets is base offense in todays league.

[JoPoy88]

13 minutes ago, Lost said:

Its a weird dynamic going on in the NFL right now.   I've felt like receivers have been getting overpaid in recent years and RBs underpaid.   

 

Statistically, Saquan Barkley had more yards from scrimmage as Stephon Diggs and just as many TDs.  RBs also take a far bigger beating earning those yards and have a lot of added blocking responsibilities the WR doesn't.  Despite this, the new WR contracts going around are like 7 million more per year more than top tier RBs.

Because teams know the league and its rules favor the passing game, and the fact that passing is simply more efficient than running.

[HOUSE]

Buy a cheaper Lamborghini 

[K D]

Boo hoo, millionaires mad they are only making $10 mil per year instead of $15 mil. What a bunch of babies! If you don't like it get a new job, it's a free country. Oh wait, you can't make that much money in a "normal job"? I guess you have it pretty good then!

 

Seriously this is absolutely embarrassing and more people need to call out this type of behavior. You get paid what your value is no matter what the job is. There's literally thousands of people that would be willing to take their spot if they don't like it. How many good college RB's never even get a shot at the NFL? We see it every preseason. Some no name player has an amazing few games then we never hear from them again. I'm sure they would be happy making 1/10th what these guys are complaining about. RB's are a dime a dozen. Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with a 7th rounder. It's not a position of value so you get paid what the market is.

[colin]

rbs get smashed to bits, but honestly they should all be spending a lot more time learning how to be short area WRs, growing up too.

 

if RBs were like marshall faulk and therman thomas now, guys who can run but also block and be slot wrs and hbacks, they'd be getting a lot more cash and a lot more glory.

 

the fact that a good but not all pro guard in the nfl gets 10mm, and a top flight tackle gets 20, shows you that the front offices think the blocking is the better part of the run game, and now the passing game is by far the better part of the offense.

[Lost]

34 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Because teams know the league and its rules favor the passing game, and the fact that passing is simply more efficient than running.

 

Devin Singletary had twice as many yards from scrimmage last year as Dawson Knox and nearly as many passing targets.   Dawson Knox was awarded a 4 year 52 million contract extension.   Singletary was released and now playing under a 1 year deal for under 3 million.   Kinda crazy.

[corta765]

2 hours ago, Gugny said:

Boo.  Hoo. 

You tell em Mr Met!

2 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

Devin Singletary had twice as many yards from scrimmage last year as Dawson Knox and nearly as many passing targets.   Dawson Knox was awarded a 4 year 52 million contract extension.   Singletary was released and now playing under a 1 year deal for under 3 million.   Kinda crazy.

 

Too many talented RBs now were he is replaceable. They literally got rid of Singletary and between Cooks being cheaper/possibly more talented and Harris/Murray taking vet minimum contracts BUF backfield is potentially better. The position just has too much talent these days so cheap replacements are everywhere.

Ralph wouldn't know what to do with himself these days lol

[mjt328]

A player's "value" is only what NFL teams are willing to pay.

And for many legitimate reasons, teams are realizing it's not worth paying Running Backs big contracts.

 

Considering the wear/tear and small shelf-life, I agree that RBs get a raw deal compared to most other NFL positions.  But then again, the fact that so many serviceable guys can be found out of college... that suggests it's one of the easiest positions to play in the league.  I know that even back in high school, there were tons of guys who were pretty good at playing RB.  Much tougher to find a guy who could throw or run routes and catch.  When it comes to linemen, the physical size disqualifies the majority of human beings.

 

And at the end of the day, even these devalued RBs are making 100x more than average Americans.  Nothing is stopping them from playing 3-5 years and then retiring if they can't get the contract they want.  Someone will surely step up and take that job.

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Smart teams would still just cycle through RB's on a three year cost controlled rookie deal and not re-sign them.  Getting rid of the rookie wage minimum scale for RB's or reducing eligibility requirements to enter the NFL draft would help somewhat.  However, then players at other positions would complain.  I don't see an easy fix.

but then you’ll also have teams with quarterbacks on rookie deals that will say OK we will take your 24 year old star running back and pay them to a new three-year deal.