KRC Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Correction: all who DON'T believe in this war should get all geared up and over there. 351856[/snapback] If they don't believe in it, why would they go over there to fight in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 If they don't believe in it, why would they go over there to fight in it? 351857[/snapback] Because JSP's nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I wouldn't do anything to him. Just wouldn't bother with his website. He's got a right to his views, I would be curious to see if he had the gonads to voice them at some young blowed up kids funeral in front of his parents, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 If they don't believe in it, why would they go over there to fight in it? 351857[/snapback] Not saying they WOULD, but they SHOULD. And CTM, I may be nuts, but I ain't crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Not saying they WOULD, but they SHOULD. 351890[/snapback] Again, why SHOULD they? They didn't want the war in the first place. If I were there, the last thing I would want would be someone who is pissed off at the war guarding my back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Again, why SHOULD they? They didn't want the war in the first place. If I were there, the last thing I would want would be someone who is pissed off at the war guarding my back. 351896[/snapback] Good point, that. But you'd ahve to think that a bond of survival would outweigh any political passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Good point, that. But you'd ahve to think that a bond of survival would outweigh any political passion. 351899[/snapback] Considering people light themselves on fire and suicide to make a point, not to mention bomb buildings and do other hideous things becuase of their passion, its quite a possible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Considering people light themselves on fire and suicide to make a point, not to mention bomb buildings and do other hideous things becuase of their passion, its quite a possible thing. 351963[/snapback] Their passion isn't POLITICAL, it's RELIGIOUS. Two entirely different animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Their passion isn't POLITICAL, it's RELIGIOUS. Two entirely different animals. 351966[/snapback] Most of the cases are actually a combination of the two. Oppression by the government against their religion, stuff like that. There have been, however, people lighting themselves on fire in protest to police brutality, people willing to die in protestto government actions, Gandhi fasting due to a language not being made a national language (I think it was a Gandhi, it might have been someone else, I get my South Asian history mixed up). If you are passionate enough, and crazy enough to do this in a religion, you'd be crazy enough to do it in protest to Government actions, especially after you've seen killing yourself. Passion is a funny thing - it breeds in a person until there is no stopping it, even overcoming the most basic of instincts. Course, I can't say I've ever fought in a war, so I could just be talking out my ass. I'm only going off of relevant examples that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Their passion isn't POLITICAL, it's RELIGIOUS. Two entirely different animals. 351966[/snapback] Actually, it's both, derived from Arab nationalism through the Afghan mujahaddin and Pakistani Islamic politics to the terrorist groups we see today. Hell, Joe, you should know better than that. Virtually every major religion has been indistinguishable from geopolitics at some point in history. Christianity, Islam, Judaism...even Buddhism. "Not political, but religious" is by FAR the exception rather than the rule; usually they go hand in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Most of the cases are actually a combination of the two. Oppression by the government against their religion, stuff like that. There have been, however, people lighting themselves on fire in protest to police brutality, people willing to die in protestto government actions, Gandhi fasting due to a language not being made a national language (I think it was a Gandhi, it might have been someone else, I get my South Asian history mixed up). If you are passionate enough, and crazy enough to do this in a religion, you'd be crazy enough to do it in protest to Government actions, especially after you've seen killing yourself. Passion is a funny thing - it breeds in a person until there is no stopping it, even overcoming the most basic of instincts. Course, I can't say I've ever fought in a war, so I could just be talking out my ass. I'm only going off of relevant examples that I know of. 351979[/snapback] If you notice, most of the terrorists of the pre-Islamist era contented themselves in setting bombs and blowing them up from a distance. These religious whack-jobs want to die to fulfill some perverse religious requirement for endless eternal booty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 If you notice, most of the terrorists of the pre-Islamist era contented themselves in setting bombs and blowing them up from a distance. 351990[/snapback] You need to read more. That's not even remotely a true statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 You need to read more. That's not even remotely a true statement. 351993[/snapback] How many IRA members strapped c4 to themselves? How about Basque terrorists? Maybe the Red Brigades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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