Bills red helmet throwbacks incoming? 2023 NFL throwback uniform news

[MPL]

At what point do we get a billboard made to let the decision makers know where we stand on this matter? 

[Warriorspikes51]

Sal C already said it's not happening this year sadly 

The NFL would be smart to have every team wear throwbacks 3-4 games per season and an alternate once

Or, just let the fans vote on what uniforms they want each team to wear? 

[Gregg]

28 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Sal C already said it's not happening this year sadly 

The NFL would be smart to have every team wear throwbacks 3-4 games per season and an alternate once

Or, just let the fans vote on what uniforms they want each team to wear? 

 

If I had a vote, I would lose the all reds and blues. Keep every other uniform combo but I would bring back the throwbacks both blue over white and all white. 

[Luka]

Still waiting for white helmet, red jersey, blue pants. 

[corta765]

50 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Sal C already said it's not happening this year sadly 

The NFL would be smart to have every team wear throwbacks 3-4 games per season and an alternate once

Or, just let the fans vote on what uniforms they want each team to wear? 

 

So the issue with fan votes, crazy amount of throwbacks etc.. is the loss of identity a team can have and the safety piece with the multiple helmets. I understand fans liking multiple looks and it certainly is good to an extent, but their becomes a point where it goes too far. I have appreciated that the Pegula's with both teams (Sabres took a little longer to get back to where they should've) have kept the same look and not really done anything too wild. Some of the best looks in the NFL are teams that really have not gone too wild like Green Bay Pittsburgh etc.. Atlanta is an example of what happens when you can't find a consistent look and keep going for trendy over solid. I do think the Bills are missing an opportunity revenue wise and fan wise by not doing the red helmet yet, but the league also drags its feet to the point doing a change can take 2-3 years from the moment its approved for even an alternate. So it is very possible the Bills do have a red helmet in the works and it literally is a time crunch. I have personally felt their current look is superior to everything and doing the AFL throwback 2 times a year is enough. If they add the 90s red for a game or two also, then great but I am happy that they have a consistently good look and have avoided the dreaded revision "upgrade" some teams drift to.

 

Helmet wise even though the NFL has approved two helmets now, inventory is still an issue for teams and I have to imagine some teams are skittish to have two helmets with all the head injury issues. Add in the injury with Hamlin last year and I can easily see the Bills punting to another year before going down that road. Some may say that is small potatoes, but between Hamlin and then Pegula's wife the organization has dealt with some major medical issues across the board and I can understand not wanting to press on something the league just got back into.

[nucci]

1 hour ago, Luka said:

Still waiting for white helmet, red jersey, blue pants. 

that would look worse than any uniform ever

[Saxum]

3 hours ago, corta765 said:

Helmet wise even though the NFL has approved two helmets now, inventory is still an issue for teams and I have to imagine some teams are skittish to have two helmets with all the head injury issues. Add in the injury with Hamlin last year and I can easily see the Bills punting to another year before going down that road. Some may say that is small potatoes, but between Hamlin and then Pegula's wife the organization has dealt with some major medical issues across the board and I can understand not wanting to press on something the league just got back into.

 

There is not one helmet for a team - players can choose from a list by standard four prominent helmet manufacturers in the NFL (Riddell, Schutt, VICIS, and Xenith).  VICIS who is newest approved manufacture has been an innovative maker who was having financial issues a few years ago but seemed to have recovered.

 

There are better helmets than the four standard brands but NFL and NFLPA are very resistant to add new manufacturers.

 

Official testing results and list:

https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/equipment-and-innovation/equipment-testing/helmet-laboratory-testing-performance-results

https://static.www.nfl.com/image/upload/v1681310780/league/kolarozeolaw53tmq37z.pdf

 

Here is the list of top performing helmets from NFL locker room poster (you can find original in PDF File):

 

[Irv]

4 hours ago, Luka said:

Still waiting for white helmet, red jersey, blue pants. 

 

Go to training camp.🤪

[TheFunPolice]

90's throwbacks with red helmets would be cool to see, for sure!

 

Generally, I like the throwbacks that teams have, but I would hate to see teams end up having a handful of different uniforms and color schemes that they constantly shuffle between. Tampa's throwbacks are awesome! I have no idea why they ever changed. They were unique. 

 

Plus every team doesn't need a black uniform when it's not in their color scheme. The Cardinals and 49ers are the worst offenders in this. It's one thing if the Saints, Ravens, Falcons or Steelers do it, because it's part of the team colors already. When you're the Cardinals and your colors are red and white you don't need to copy Atlanta's uniforms.  

 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[Gregg]

Just now, TheFunPolice said:

90's throwbacks with red helmets would be cool to see, for sure!

 

Generally, I like the throwbacks that teams have, but I would hate to see teams end up having a handful of different uniforms and color schemes that they constantly shuffle between. Tampa's throwbacks are awesome! I have no idea why they ever changed. They were unique. 

 

Plus every team doesn't need a black uniform when it's not in their color scheme. The Cardinals and 49ers are the worst offenders in this. It's one thing if the Saints, Ravens, Falcons or Steelers do it, because it's part of the team colors already. When you're the Cardinals and your colors are red and white you don't need to copy Atlanta's uniforms.  

 

Also, I'll say preemptively: get off my lawn! 

 

The one team that needs to go back to their old uniforms full time is Seattle. Those uniforms looked great. What they have now blows.

[cba fan]

5 hours ago, Luka said:

Still waiting for white helmet, red jersey, blue pants. 

the red jersey Bill us is not at all a good color. Does not even look like Bills scarlet. It has an orange hue to it.

[Gregg]

Carolina releases their entire uniform schedule for the year. It says week 3 at Seattle they will be wearing a dark color jersey. I think the Seahawks are the only team in the NFL who has never worn their white jersey at home. That is probably a mistake. 

 

 

[cba fan]

8 hours ago, eball said:

 

I don’t think there is a single Bills fan making the determination whether to watch them on TV, or attend a game, based upon what helmet they wear.  There’s no revenue in retro helmets, and the Bills jerseys of the 90s are so similar to today’s that people aren’t going to buy them either.

 

The sole change I would like to see is the elimination of the red combo…but people buy those red jerseys so…

 

i disagree w no revenue with throwback or alternate helmets. Collectors and fans buy them. Players sign many different types of helmets and are then sold too at high prices. I have seen Chrome, Black, Silver, and others not a team helmet color that players sign then NFL or collector sites sell. This is probably why Allen absolutely refuses to sign full size helmets. Might be contractedly not allowed to.

[BillsfaninSB]

1 hour ago, Irv said:

 

Go to training camp.🤪

After a season of the white masks I think I prefer the gray version.  It differentiates them from Miami and looks better in my opinion. 

[eball]

37 minutes ago, cba fan said:

i disagree w no revenue with throwback or alternate helmets. Collectors and fans buy them. Players sign many different types of helmets and are then sold too at high prices. I have seen Chrome, Black, Silver, and others not a team helmet color that players sign then NFL or collector sites sell. This is probably why Allen absolutely refuses to sign full size helmets. Might be contractedly not allowed to.

 

No “significant” revenue to the teams.

 

[purple haze]

9 hours ago, eball said:

 

I don’t think there is a single Bills fan making the determination whether to watch them on TV, or attend a game, based upon what helmet they wear.  There’s no revenue in retro helmets, and the Bills jerseys of the 90s are so similar to today’s that people aren’t going to buy them either.

 

The sole change I would like to see is the elimination of the red combo…but people buy those red jerseys so…

 

Keep them available in the store.  Folks will still buy them because some folks will buy anything different or new.  But the team doesn’t have to wear them for sales to keep going.  The red combo needs to be put away, especially if they are blocking  better uni combinations.

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

The one team that needs to go back to their old uniforms full time is Seattle. Those uniforms looked great. What they have now blows.

I actually dig their current unis but the throwbacks look better.  Often less  is more. Those unis pop.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

12 hours ago, eball said:

 

I don’t think there is a single Bills fan making the determination whether to watch them on TV, or attend a game, based upon what helmet they wear.  There’s no revenue in retro helmets, and the Bills jerseys of the 90s are so similar to today’s that people aren’t going to buy them either.

 

The sole change I would like to see is the elimination of the red combo…but people buy those red jerseys so…

 

Absolutely there is a revenue. You serious? You know how many 90s Josh Allen jerseys they’d sell in the first day they were available?

[Luka]

18 hours ago, Irv said:

 

Go to training camp.🤪

Where do you think I got the idea from? They just haven't used it in game.

[Irv]

16 minutes ago, Luka said:

Where do you think I got the idea from? They just haven't used it in game.

That combo almost made me gouge my eyes out.  Yuck!

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, Irv said:

That combo almost made me gouge my eyes out.  Yuck!

 

That combo would be good for a division 3 college football program or the XFL, USFL as that look screams minor league. Lose the all reds and blues and then the Bills have the perfect uniform combos. Every other look is good.