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1 hour ago, RichRiderBills said:

He wasn't that well spoken. Hopefully he is hitting the gym hard and not eating too much. The shirtless w sport coat deal the other day was comedy . 

 

We will see about Dawkins, but the game film shows a very uneven season last year. 

 

 

 

 

This guy is at least 30-40 pounds blubber beyond his true weight.  I guess they want them to do that these days, but he is just so overinflated with fat...I preferred the league when OLmen were just as athletic as everyone else on the field.


They might have only been 285, but it was a super strong, solid, lean,285 and they were still the biggest strongest guys on the field.

 

Very few of these guys are TRUE 340 pound monsters, though those guys do come along now and again.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

This guy is at least 30-40 pounds blubber beyond his true weight.  I guess they want them to do that these days, but he is just so overinflated with fat...I preferred the league when OLmen were just as athletic as everyone else on the field.


They might have only been 285, but it was a super strong, solid, lean,285 and they were still the biggest strongest guys on the field.

 

Very few of these guys are TRUE 340 pound monsters, though those guys do come along now and again.

 

 

If lean 285 lb linemen were better than 320 lb guys with some blubber, the league would be filled with 285 lb linemen.  

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

The way he describes the playoff game is the way I saw it too. That is what it looked like on my tv set. 

 

It was a bummer. I kept waiting for the spark but it never came around. The infinite Bengals third down conversions were met with a lot of *siiiigh* "They just look like they're completely outta gas today." Just the worst time to have their worst game. 

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1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Was it listless?  Or did he say over by the third possession? Because something was way off - no energy or emotion. 

 

He said it was just flat. There was something and it wasn't the true Bills. That is how it looked to me. We played our worst football game for a season and a half (since the Jags loss) but sadly played it in a home playoff game. It sucks. But players are human beings not machines. 

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

The way he describes the playoff game is the way I saw it too. That is what it looked like on my tv set. 

Yeah I agree. Actually good to hear that come from a player. Hard to pinpoint what the reason was that they came out that flat in that arena. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, NewEra said:

I’d pay to see Kadarious Toney on one of these national shows 


is Toney even able to formulate a sentence?

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18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He said it was just flat. There was something and it wasn't the true Bills. That is how it looked to me. We played our worst football game for a season and a half (since the Jags loss) but sadly played it in a home playoff game. It sucks. But players are human beings not machines. 

I was there.  If we hit the stutter and go to Diggs on the first series it might have been a different game.   Maybe.  But we were just listless.  It was like there was no air in the place.  
 

Sometimes off-field stuff matters.  I think there was a lot of that last year, including the night before the game.  These guys dealt with a lot last year on and off the field, and … in hindsight I get it.  We were due to run out of gas, and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if something beyond their control and off the field was the final straw. 

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15 minutes ago, DJB said:


is Toney even able to formulate a sentence?

Seriously.  If I’m a show producer, he’d be one of my first choices as a guest.  Guaranteed 5M views on YT if the interviewer grills him

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54 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

Yeah I agree. Actually good to hear that come from a player. Hard to pinpoint what the reason was that they came out that flat in that arena. 

 

 

 

I mean... they were just as bad the first few possessions in the first Bengals game up until Hamlin went down

 

I don't think we need to invent excuses for getting stomped by a better side

 

 

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1 hour ago, teef said:

does being a buddhist involve hating people?

 

Yes....people who don't love cheeseburgers.

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

This guy is at least 30-40 pounds blubber beyond his true weight.  I guess they want them to do that these days, but he is just so overinflated with fat...I preferred the league when OLmen were just as athletic as everyone else on the field.


They might have only been 285, but it was a super strong, solid, lean,285 and they were still the biggest strongest guys on the field.

 

Very few of these guys are TRUE 340 pound monsters, though those guys do come along now and again.

 

 

 

Lineman are bigger, stronger, faster and more athletic today than they were 30+ years ago.

 

If it was better to be at 285 lbs, most would be there.  

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2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

They might have only been 285, but it was a super strong, solid, lean,285 and they were still the biggest strongest guys on the field.

 


Lean 285 lb lineman? That’s Lebron James bro, it’s extremely far from common. Who of Wolford, Hull or Frerote fit this description? If anything they were just slightly smaller fat guys.

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2 hours ago, billsbackto81 said:

I know right. God forbid he doesn't speak the Queen's English.😂

 

I've heard enough interviews from pro athletes over the years. Dion comes off as Anthony Robbins and Jordan Peterson compared to most.

I found Dion to be incredibly articulate.  It was a great interview,  even with Cow continuing to stir the Diggs pot.

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3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

I was there.  If we hit the stutter and go to Diggs on the first series it might have been a different game.   Maybe.  But we were just listless.  It was like there was no air in the place.  
 

Sometimes off-field stuff matters.  I think there was a lot of that last year, including the night before the game.  These guys dealt with a lot last year on and off the field, and … in hindsight I get it.  We were due to run out of gas, and I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if something beyond their control and off the field was the final straw. 

By ‘including the night before the game’, you’re referring to Cops being called to Allen’s house, right?

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2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I found Dion to be incredibly articulate.  It was a great interview,  even with Cow continuing to stir the Diggs pot.

 

If by Articulate you mean some pretty stammering responses and long winded metaphors ... He honestly sounded nervous. 

 

I know Dion is no dummy, but I just don't see the aspect of him being eloquent in this session or having some broadcast future. 

 

In a perfect world, I could honestly care less about his weight, I just see the correlation to his build and declining speed and performance. The film was much worse than his PFF grade....and even that is not great.  I'm worried about Dawkins. It's a huge year for him, and I'm hoping he gets focused. 

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Good interview.  He's talkative and definitely has his own point of view.  Clearly loves Buffalo.   Funny how he gave the Jets-loving sidekick grief.  

 

Favorite quote:  "We're a group of men that love each other, play with each other... there are no worries."  

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5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

This guy is at least 30-40 pounds blubber beyond his true weight.  I guess they want them to do that these days, but he is just so overinflated with fat...I preferred the league when OLmen were just as athletic as everyone else on the field.


They might have only been 285, but it was a super strong, solid, lean,285 and they were still the biggest strongest guys on the field.

 

Very few of these guys are TRUE 340 pound monsters, though those guys do come along now and again.

 

 

Those 280 pound lineman no matter how technically sound and a strong would get destroyed today

 

Ruben Brown was a machine and cut down to like 290… And he looked great, played awful

 

There’s a reason why there’s not 200lb linebackers … mass does matter When you’re on the field with a bunch of huge humans

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