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Oh college football!

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37990553/jalen-kitna-enters-portal-child-porn-charges-dropped

 

who would pick up this skell?

 

and how does he get these charges dropped:  " two counts of distribution of child exploitation material and three counts of possession of child pornography" to "disorderly conduct"???

 

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Kitna was arrested Nov. 30 on five felony child pornography charges -- two counts of distribution of child exploitation material and three counts of possession of child pornography -- after police received a tip from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children that a user had distributed an image of child sexual abuse material on Discord, a social media platform.

The investigation found Kitna to be the probable owner of the account, which shared two images of young girls being sexually abused. Police say they found three additional images of nude young women on Kitna's phone."

 

Why would the DA plead out this slam dunk??

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So he was 19and they said the pictures were a year old. My guess would be the girls were 17 or so. 
 

Good buddy of mine was a meck county school cop. On a weekly basis he would go to parents houses and talk to parents of kids sending nude pics and let them know he could technically arrest them for child porn distribution. A principal emailed him pictures of a girl one time cause she was just sending pictures to anyone and he had to explain to the principal he could arrest him.  The ***** he would tell me was insane. 

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9 hours ago, aristocrat said:

So he was 19and they said the pictures were a year old. My guess would be the girls were 17 or so. 
 

Good buddy of mine was a meck county school cop. On a weekly basis he would go to parents houses and talk to parents of kids sending nude pics and let them know he could technically arrest them for child porn distribution. A principal emailed him pictures of a girl one time cause she was just sending pictures to anyone and he had to explain to the principal he could arrest him.  The ***** he would tell me was insane. 

People would be shocked if they knew what is going on in schools. In NYC, principals are judged and rated on how few criminal incidents are reported. If nobody (parents, students, etc.) notifies the police, most school administrators will not report knifepoint robberies, stabbings, felony assaults, etc. They prefer to handle it "in house." They don't want the bad publicity.

 

What is the ultimate gain for these principals? A do nothing job at the BOE in Brooklyn on Livingston Street. 

 

If the true NYC school crime rates were exposed, they would come close to the NFL injury rates but that will never happen.

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2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

People would be shocked if they knew what is going on in schools. In NYC, principals are judged and rated on how few criminal incidents are reported. If nobody (parents, students, etc.) notifies the police, most school administrators will not report knifepoint robberies, stabbings, felony assaults, etc. They prefer to handle it "in house." They don't want the bad publicity.

 

What is the ultimate gain for these principals? A do nothing job at the BOE in Brooklyn on Livingston Street. 

 

If the true NYC school crime rates were exposed, they would come close to the NFL injury rates but that will never happen.

 

Damn, it's so different that it is down here in the suburbs of Atlanta.  If you get in a fight in school down here, you get arrested and then expelled in the county I live in.

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22 hours ago, aristocrat said:

So he was 19and they said the pictures were a year old. My guess would be the girls were 17 or so. 
 

Good buddy of mine was a meck county school cop. On a weekly basis he would go to parents houses and talk to parents of kids sending nude pics and let them know he could technically arrest them for child porn distribution. A principal emailed him pictures of a girl one time cause she was just sending pictures to anyone and he had to explain to the principal he could arrest him.  The ***** he would tell me was insane. 


it says “young girls being abused” in the other pictures.  That’s not a few late teen classmates in the shower 

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39 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:


it says “young girls being abused” in the other pictures.  That’s not a few late teen classmates in the shower 


hey. I’m just guessing. If they were actual toddlers I don’t think there is any way he gets this kind of deal. I mean if it came out that the prosecutor gave a favorable deal to a guy abusing kids he’d never get a job again. I’m guessing the context behind the pictures is different than the quotes about the pictures. At least that’s what makes sense to me 

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1 hour ago, aristocrat said:


hey. I’m just guessing. If they were actual toddlers I don’t think there is any way he gets this kind of deal. I mean if it came out that the prosecutor gave a favorable deal to a guy abusing kids he’d never get a job again. I’m guessing the context behind the pictures is different than the quotes about the pictures. At least that’s what makes sense to me 

 

He wasn't charged with abusing kids, but sharing pictures of you girls being abused.....scroll up

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On 7/11/2023 at 7:56 PM, Mr. WEO said:


it says “young girls being abused” in the other pictures.  That’s not a few late teen classmates in the shower 

 

Now normally I would say that in investigatory parlance, "young girls" can literally mean a legal child of any age. I'm guessing that was directly lifted from a probable cause statement.

 

But...https://www.alligator.org/article/2022/12/kitna-case-print

 

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There, Kitna admitted to struggling with an addiction to child sexual abuse material, ***** and other pornography, according to the affidavit.

 

He previously joined groups on the private messaging app Kik that discussed and distributed child sexual abuse material along with his current use of Discord, he said, though he “tries to shy away from it,” according to the report.

 

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6 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

Now normally I would say that in investigatory parlance, "young girls" can literally mean a legal child of any age. I'm guessing that was directly lifted from a probable cause statement.

 

But...https://www.alligator.org/article/2022/12/kitna-case-print

 

 

 

yeah, the quoted parts don't sound like it's late teen classmates or HS seniors sending shower pics.  He has admitted to "child sexual abuse" material on his phone and shared with others. The exact age of those sexually abused in the pictures (they are minors) doesn't mitigate any of what he has admitted to,

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On 7/10/2023 at 9:18 PM, aristocrat said:

So he was 19and they said the pictures were a year old. My guess would be the girls were 17 or so. 
 

Good buddy of mine was a meck county school cop. On a weekly basis he would go to parents houses and talk to parents of kids sending nude pics and let them know he could technically arrest them for child porn distribution. A principal emailed him pictures of a girl one time cause she was just sending pictures to anyone and he had to explain to the principal he could arrest him.  The ***** he would tell me was insane. 


I can tell you this from personal experience (professionally) Law enforcement, to include DA’s office’s and Federal prosecutors, won’t touch cases unless it is super clear the children are just that….prepubescent children. They otherwise would lose cases to sympathetic jury’s. 
 

On top of that just having a nude photo of a child isn’t considered child pornography. It has to be a true pornographic photo. Remember this…Springville, NY’s own Penny Baker, Playboy magazine’s 30 year anniversary Playmate, was only 17 years old when her spread was shot.

 

I don’t mean to be disrectful to you or your police officer friend, but depending on the actual content of what that Principal sent, it very well may not have been distributing child porn. 

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15 minutes ago, Beast said:


I can tell you this from personal experience (professionally) Law enforcement, to include DA’s office’s and Federal prosecutors, won’t touch cases unless it is super clear the children are just that….prepubescent children. They otherwise would lose cases to sympathetic jury’s. 
 

On top of that just having a nude photo of a child isn’t considered child pornography. It has to be a true pornographic photo. Remember this…Springville, NY’s own Penny Baker, Playboy magazine’s 30 year anniversary Playmate, was only 17 years old when her spread was shot.

 

I don’t mean to be disrectful to you or your police officer friend, but depending on the actual content of what that Principal sent, it very well may not have been distributing child porn. 


The laws are trying to modernize but if an underage girl sends a nude photo to someone that is child porn. They don’t prosecute them generally because technically it’s consensual. But also underage people aren’t usually supposed to be able to give consent. What you may be thinking is if parents share a harmless photo of toddlers or babies in the bath or something similar. That’s not child porn. But if a 16 year old girl sends a topless pic to her boyfriend that is child porn. I’m just explaining what he experienced on the job. 

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No, I’m not speaking of that. I work in a DA’s office in a Special Victim’s Unit. I know exactly what I’m speaking of.

 

A 16 year old topless female IS NOT child porn.

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45 minutes ago, Beast said:

No, I’m not speaking of that. I work in a DA’s office in a Special Victim’s Unit. I know exactly what I’m speaking of.

 

A 16 year old topless female IS NOT child porn.


If a 16 year old girl sends you a full frontal are you getting charged?

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9 hours ago, aristocrat said:


If a 16 year old girl sends you a full frontal are you getting charged?


In New York State one  oils be charged with Endangering the welfare of a child depending on the circumstances.

 

Read this link. It describes what is and isn’t child pornography better than I am doing right now.

 

https://www.pransky.com/blog/2014/10/is-sexting-naked-pictures-distribution-of-pornography/

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