Sage Advice & Pearls of Wisdom

[boyst]

What do you have?

 

My submission: "a vacation with children is not supposed to be for your relaxation. It is for them and their core memories." A friend last week before we went to the beach.

[Nextmanup]

Huh, I've always thought dragging children to adult related "vacation" things is an utter act of futility.  The kids make it miserable for all the adults around them, most parents do not properly parent their children in public spaces any more, at least not in this country, and the kids, if small enough, are going to remember NOTHING of the trip.  I.E., please keep them out of adult cultural point of interest destinations.

 

Parents do crap like that for their own psyche, not the children.  They think they are being a great parent and opening up experiences for their little 5 year old.  Ha!  

 

It's the same reason they make their 6 years old take piano lessons, even though it's quite clear the kid isn't into it, dislikes it, has no propensity for music, and doesn't practice.  But away the kid goes week after week to lessons, and it's all "for the child."  LOL.  It's actually for the parent, quietly getting off on the idea that he/she is raising her precious child correctly.  

 

Now if we are talking about something stupid, like driving a few states to get to a beach with an ocean and letting your little ones build sand castles, fine.  They'll enjoy that.

 

 

[Augie]

Experiences > Things.

 

We are taking our 9 year old grandson to NYC next weekend. We will see the Harry Potter play, have dinner in Central Park (Tavern on the Green), take the ferry around the Statue of Liberty, see the view of the Chrysler Building and Manhattan skyline from the wife’s office, etc. It would be much less expensive to buy him one of the toys he’s so eager to have, the toys that will be forgotten in a month. His first trip to the Big Apple will stay with him a lifetime. 

 

 

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Edited July 10, 2023 by Augie

[Saxum]

16 minutes ago, Augie said:

Experiences > Things.

 

We are taking our 9 year old grandson to NYC next weekend. We will see the Harry Potter play, have dinner in Central Park (Tavern on the Green), take the ferry around the Statue of Liberty, see the view of the Chrysler Building and Manhattan skyline from the wife’s office, etc. It would be much less expensive to buy home one of the toys he’s so eager to have, the toys that will be forgotten in a month. His first trip to the Big Apple will stay with him a lifetime. 

 

Take lots of pictures.  Memory fades as other memories are added.  We took my daughter to Hawaii multiple times as a youngster and while she wants to go back (much more difficult now) her memories are not very strong.

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

What do you have?

 

My submission: "a vacation with children is not supposed to be for your relaxation. It is for them and their core memories." A friend last week before we went to the beach.

 

My sister-in-law says that it's not vacation...it's going away.

[Gugny]

24 minutes ago, Augie said:

Experiences > Things.

 

We are taking our 9 year old grandson to NYC next weekend. We will see the Harry Potter play, have dinner in Central Park (Tavern on the Green), take the ferry around the Statue of Liberty, see the view of the Chrysler Building and Manhattan skyline from the wife’s office, etc. It would be much less expensive to buy home one of the toys he’s so eager to have, the toys that will be forgotten in a month. His first trip to the Big Apple will stay with him a lifetime. 

 

 

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That’s a great age for him to experience those things. 
 

I brought my son to NYC for long weekends every summer between the ages of 5-16. 
 

Covid broke the streak and we haven’t been since. 
 

But he’s got a ton of great memories of NYC. 

[SinceThe70s]

32 minutes ago, Augie said:

Experiences > Things.

 

We are taking our 9 year old grandson to NYC next weekend. We will see the Harry Potter play, have dinner in Central Park (Tavern on the Green), take the ferry around the Statue of Liberty, see the view of the Chrysler Building and Manhattan skyline from the wife’s office, etc. It would be much less expensive to buy home one of the toys he’s so eager to have, the toys that will be forgotten in a month. His first trip to the Big Apple will stay with him a lifetime. 

 

 

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Awesome!

 

Since you'll be down by Battery Park you might want to check out the Sea Glass carousel (https://www.seaglasscarousel.nyc/). 

[Mr Info]

3 hours ago, boyst said:

What do you have?

 

My submission: "a vacation with children is not supposed to be for your relaxation. It is for them and their core memories." A friend last week before we went to the beach.

I somewhat agree with this but, as a child, how far back are your memories for vacations? Children younger than 5-6 will probably have lille or no memory of the vacation. We took our two boys for a beach vacation in France when they were 8-9. We have to remind them or show pics of events that occurred as they have little memory of these.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Mr Info

[PromoTheRobot]

"You allow people to make you miserable."

[Mark80]

No matter who you are talking to it is pretty much guaranteed that they know more about something than you do.  Just because they are not knowledgeable about what you are, doesn't mean they are stupid.

1 hour ago, Augie said:

Experiences > Things.

 

We are taking our 9 year old grandson to NYC next weekend. We will see the Harry Potter play, have dinner in Central Park (Tavern on the Green), take the ferry around the Statue of Liberty, see the view of the Chrysler Building and Manhattan skyline from the wife’s office, etc. It would be much less expensive to buy home one of the toys he’s so eager to have, the toys that will be forgotten in a month. His first trip to the Big Apple will stay with him a lifetime. 

 

 

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I don't buy this really.  Often times things can lead to experiences as well...fast cars, boats, off road vehicles, at home entertainment, video games, a pool or living space, whatever...all those products create experiences for people too.  It all depends on the individual and what they want their "experiences" to be.  Some would argue the products are better because you can repeat the experience instead of just trying to remember it.

Edited July 9, 2023 by Mark80

[4merper4mer]

The Sage advice I received was to only eat lentils.  It was bad advice.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, Mark80 said:

No matter who you are talking to it is pretty much guaranteed that they know more about something than you do.  Just because they are not knowledgeable about what you are, doesn't mean they are stupid.

I don't buy this really.  Often times things can lead to experiences as well...fast cars, boats, off road vehicles, at home entertainment, video games, a pool or living space, whatever...all those products create experiences for people too.  It all depends on the individual and what they want their "experiences" to be.  Some would argue the products are better because you can repeat the experience instead of just trying to remember it.

 

Here you are using a product to gain an experience. The product isn’t what you cherish, it is a means to the desired end, the experience. We think of this as an educational gift to him. This will beat the hell out of a new bathing suit or a video game.

 

But you can always argue just about anything if you want to. I think the basic point was pretty clear. 

[Johnny Hammersticks]

Better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in the midst of battle.

[Augie]

3 hours ago, Gugny said:

That’s a great age for him to experience those things. 
 

I brought my son to NYC for long weekends every summer between the ages of 5-16. 
 

Covid broke the streak and we haven’t been since. 
 

But he’s got a ton of great memories of NYC. 

 

My sister’s family decided to skip gifts for anything one year. No birthdays, Mother’s Day , Christmas, etc. They put a pretty good dent in the cost of going to Paris over Christmas break. I seriously doubt anyone could name a gift they got the year before or the year after, but they all remember Paris. 

[Doc]

Never get high on your own supply.

[f0neguy]

Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

[ExiledInIllinois]

From: "29 Things People Try To Warn Others About But They Don’t Listen"

 

Two that stuck out!!!

 

#1:

 

"Letting the culture war distract you. The purpose of the culture war is to be a distraction. We don’t need to worry about pronouns and drag queens. We need to worry about the extremely rich taking advantage of us all."

 

AND....It's probably killing me the last 35 years working swing shift...

 

#4:

 

"Sleep deprivation.

"That s**t'll kill you. Slowly. Painfully. Insidiously. Your body will wear out. Your mind will waste away. You will be sick all the time. Your judgment, self control, and emotional continence will fail with astonishing regularity. You'll develop cognitive decline in your 50s or 60s that shouldn't happen south of 80 or 90. It will destroy your quality of life."

 

 

https://www.boredpanda.com/?s=29+Things+People+Try+To+Warn+Others+About+But+They+Don’t+Listen

 

 

[SinceThe70s]

 

Always is never right and never is always wrong.

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Always is never right and never is always wrong.

 

I dare you to mention the bottom of the ocean floor and @4merper4mer!  😂 

[4merper4mer]

3 hours ago, Augie said:

 

My sister’s family decided to skip gifts for anything one year. No birthdays, Mother’s Day , Christmas, etc. They put a pretty good dent in the cost of going to Paris over Christmas break. I seriously doubt anyone could name a gift they got the year before or the year after, but they all remember Paris. 

Hilton?

 

Gross