JerseyBills Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Just a reminder of how lucky we are. 1st ballot h.o.f QB 8 1 5 11 6 Quote
GoBills808 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Not exactly the guy I'd compare him to but interesting I didn't realize Manning threw that many picks early on 2 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 We get it. Josh is good, BUT it was a vastly different game in the late 90s-2000s and yes, Peyton threw a ton of pics early in his career. 2 5 1 1 Quote
SMAKCruiser Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Not exactly the guy I'd compare him to but interesting I didn't realize Manning threw that many picks early on He threw a ton in his rookie year Quote
MRW Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Not exactly the guy I'd compare him to but interesting I didn't realize Manning threw that many picks early on I remember he was really a turnover machine. But even in his rookie year you could tell that he was special. It's why I never had any patience for Edwards or Taylor, you have to try to make plays. I'd rather see that than checkdown, checkdown, checkdown. 4 Quote
gobills404 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Josh is an insanely talented QB and we’re beyond lucky to have him on the Bills. He also leads the league in turnovers since 2020 and needs to do a much better job of taking care of the football. Both these things can be true. 5 9 3 Quote
section122 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 As others have mentioned pre 2008 the qb position stats were different. Also it would be interesting to see fumbles added in as I dont recall it being as much of an issue for manning as it is w allen. Hopefully at the end of his career though Allen's thought of in the same tier as Manning especially those super bowl wins! 1 Quote
JerseyBills Posted July 3, 2023 Author Posted July 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: We get it. Josh is good, BUT it was a vastly different game in the late 90s-2000s and yes, Peyton threw a ton of pics early in his career. Peyton was groomed , expected to start #1 pick.. Allen wasn't expecting to start.. Also Peyton threw more and was playing against a bunch of 34 and 43 looks ; not as athletic Lbs so it makes it even more impressive for Josh imo 1 1 Quote
wppete Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Peyton Mannings arm doesn’t even compare to the rocket 🚀 arm Josh’s Allen has. 1 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Not exactly the guy I'd compare him to but interesting I didn't realize Manning threw that many picks early on Yeah, Manning was brutal during his rookie season, but you could see that he had “it.” Kind of like Allen Quote
0017 Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) It’s also a fact that Payton manning is 5’8” then with his forehead he’s 6’5” Edited July 3, 2023 by 0017 1 5 1 Quote
wppete Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 1 minute ago, 0017 said: It’s also a fact that Payton manning is 5’8” then with his forehead he’s 6’5” The forgotten stat. 1 Quote
Mango Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Not exactly the guy I'd compare him to but interesting I didn't realize Manning threw that many picks early on He threw 28 his rookie season. Manning is the pipe dream for every bad rookie season across the league. Manning and Allen are 20 years apart, I think it is important to compare them to their peers relatively rather than by raw numbers. By that metric they also similar in a lot of categories, which is awesome. In year 5 Manning threw 19 interceptions, good for 3rd highest in the league. Ask Manning, Dungy, Allen, McD. I would be my mortgage they would all say that their turnovers are too high. Edited July 3, 2023 by Mango 1 Quote
90sBills Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 30 minutes ago, wppete said: Peyton Mannings arm doesn’t even compare to the rocket 🚀 arm Josh’s Allen has. So true. What’s also true is the supercomputer in Peyton’s noggin that Allen doesn’t have…yet. 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Peyton was groomed , expected to start #1 pick.. Allen wasn't expecting to start.. Also Peyton threw more and was playing against a bunch of 34 and 43 looks ; not as athletic Lbs so it makes it even more impressive for Josh imo It was a different era. Peyton's receivers were also allowed to get mugged on their routes and killed after the catch. The linebackers of that time are better than the linebackers today. Quote
wppete Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, 90sBills said: So true. What’s also true is the supercomputer in Peyton’s noggin that Allen doesn’t have…yet. Yet Quote
Saxum Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 59 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Just a reminder of how lucky we are. 1st ballot h.o.f QB Who is "they"? Same ones who bashed him being drafted so soon? Excuses for Manning: He had a weak team so he needed to take more chances. Quote
artmalibu Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 Josh was majorly handicapped with his weapons especially his first year, not to mention a bad O-line. And didnt have a #1 wr till his 3rd year. Quote
Doc Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Who is "they"? Same ones who bashed him being drafted so soon? Excuses for Manning: He had a weak team so he needed to take more chances. It wasn't even close to what Josh had around him in 2018. 1 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 3, 2023 Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, SMAKCruiser said: He threw a ton in his rookie year When Mora did his infamous "Playoffs, Playoffs" rant he was being interviewed after Manning had just thrown 4 or 5 picks to lose that game. Quote
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