SCBills Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 The videos coming out of France right now… Absolute mayhem. 1
K D Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 They have BLM in France too? So a criminal was shot by police? Maybe don't commit crimes? I've never been shot by police.
boyst Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 This is no different than the peaceful protests the USA celebrated in 2021 and 2021. I'm glad France is getting a chance to speak up for their oppression. Free speech is an invaluable right. To respectfully and peacefully organize against the inexcusable actions of authority is a human rights issue. 2
aristocrat Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Feel like all I’ve seen the last few years is riots over there
Westside Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, boyst said: This is no different than the peaceful protests the USA celebrated in 2021 and 2021. I'm glad France is getting a chance to speak up for their oppression. Free speech is an invaluable right. To respectfully and peacefully organize against the inexcusable actions of authority is a human rights issue. That isn’t free speech. That’s rioting. 1
boyst Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, Westside said: That isn’t free speech. That’s rioting. America is the model of free speech in the world. This activity is in line with the exercise of the rights of all people in our democracy. This pattern needs to grow across the world so all people can speak up and have their voice ! 1
SoCal Deek Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) The Social Compact: I was going to start a thread on this topic but I’ll bring it up here. It seems to me we’ve lost sight of the Social Compact that civilized societies struck many many years ago. Here in the US we had the days of the Wild West in which people protected their lives and homes and property on their own. Law enforcement was virtually non existent. As a society we decided to trade away that system for a system of taxation in which we now pay others (police) to protect and serve us. In parts of Europe that social compact has gone so far as to completely disarm the citizens. The result is that the entirety of personal protection has been ceded to the State. Now we appear to be in a precarious tipping point in which criminals no longer fear that enforcement, and/or when some demand that the enforcement mechanism stand down in lieu of enforcing it. What happens next? Edited June 30, 2023 by SoCal Deek 1 2
Doc Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: The Social Compact: I was going to start a thread on this topic but I’ll bring it up here. It seems to me we’ve lost sight of the Social Compact that civilized societies struck many many years ago. Here in the US we had the days of the Wild West in which people protected their lives and homes and property on their own. Law enforcement was virtually non existent. As a society we decided to trade away that system for a system of taxation in which we now pay others (police) to protect and serve us. In parts of Europe that social compact has gone so far as to completely disarm the citizens. The result is that the entirety of personal protection has been ceded to the State. Now we appear to be in a precarious tipping point in which criminals no longer fear that enforcement, and/or when some demand that the enforcement mechanism stand down in lieu of enforcing it. What happens next? Militarization. Edit: I'm serious SCD. You neuter law enforcement and who is left to keep law and order? Edited June 30, 2023 by Doc 1
SCBills Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 There’s a lot to unpack in these riots from open borders, to a lack of cultural assimilation and a failing state, but one thing we know is certain… Politicians never let a good emergency go to waste. 2
T&C Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 And here I thought that they just pissed in the street...
SoCal Deek Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Doc said: Militarization. Edit: I'm serious SCD. You neuter law enforcement and who is left to keep law and order? Oh I realize you were serious Doc. The question is who militarizes first? The citizenry or the government.
wnyguy Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Seems like you all have a problem with peaceful protests?
Doc Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Oh I realize you were serious Doc. The question is who militarizes first? The citizenry or the government. The first and then the 2nd. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 9 hours ago, Doc said: Militarization. Edit: I'm serious SCD. You neuter law enforcement and who is left to keep law and order? Extremist MAGA supporters brought in to protect white liberal neighborhoods!
Westside Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 10 hours ago, boyst said: America is the model of free speech in the world. This activity is in line with the exercise of the rights of all people in our democracy. This pattern needs to grow across the world so all people can speak up and have their voice ! As long as they don't loot and burn like they did here in 2020 and 21.
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