Patrick Duffy Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lfod said: I sometimes wonder why people bring up Tyrod. People must like reading posts about how he was average. I know you can't have loved his time in Buffalo that much. Now we have more Dynamic versions of him around to say he was the broke mans Lamar Jackson. He was alright until he wasn't. It was cool at first, you hope for the guy then you get bored with how he plays. I'm glad he got a shot and did decent but after while it was time to move on. I've seen back ups come along and have a nice little run to the point people talk about them being the starter. Then they fizzle out for one reason or another. You can't be a hater if your not thinking about or talking about Tyrod. It's not hard to understand he was not that memorable. I've seen a backup win the Superbowl and the fans probably don't give him the love that some of you feel for Tyrod. He had some haters at the end of his run but that was more people hating on when people still talking about him being good making excuses for him. Yeah it does kinda seem like he is brought up a bit more than other QBs from the past. Maybe some haven't moved on yet for some reason Quote
Doc Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, dave mcbride said: Not true. He is listed as 7-6 on his player page for 2015, and if you scroll down on the second link, you'll see that while the Bills went 8-8, he is listed as having won 7 games and Cassell 1 game. All of the Bills 8 victories were ones in which Taylor was the starter. Hence he was 23-20, as I said. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/2015.htm Weird because on the 2015 gamebook page, they had him starting that first game and having an overall 8-6 record. Quote
Maine-iac Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 We haven't even won a SB with Allen and people complain. Taylor never had a chance. He wasn't a first round pick, he wasn't ever invested in to be a franchise QB, and by his final season (the playoff year) the plan was already in stone to draft a QB. When Watkins and Woods were healthy (which wasn't often especially together) Taylor was good passer. He was always a great runner and for a defensive team he did not turn the ball over. Problem was our defense didn't show up time and time again his first few seasons starting and the final season we were mortgaging everything for our next QB and Taylor was throwing to Deonte Thompson and Zay Jones (and people complain about Davis). Taylor was never as good as Allen would become and I'm happy we moved on but I'll be the first on to say if Watkins hadn't been a bust and we had a defense Taylor would have seen the playoffs several times. 2 Quote
Spiderweb Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 22 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Taylor has a 5.7 yards per carry career stat line (same as Allen.)Cam Newton averages 5 even. Vick is 7. So I think that puts him on that list. No one is questioning his running ability. It was his pitiful passing that we all recall and he was barely a single-threat at best anyway. Quote
Just in Atlanta Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Got us over the hump but, as many here have said, he was even more cautious and risk averse than Trent Edwards. The Cleveland Browns played him in only a few games the next year. I'm sure most fans remember him fondly for the first playoff berth but, yes, he was frustrating to watch, particularly in that Jags game. Having said that, we should've kept him one more year. The idea of Nate Peterman being a bridge clearly blew up in our faces. 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted June 30, 2023 Author Posted June 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, Yawning Frog said: this thread is so dumb. What do u want me to say? lol Then visit another thread. Quote
Patrick Duffy Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 41 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: he could be entertaining... Lol, I recall vividly that very play so much that out of all the MANY times back then I would shake my head in disgust yelling WTF, this however is one that I recall specifically for some reason 1 Quote
Shaw66 Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Why isn't he more revered? Well, us old guys remember Joe Ferguson, and Joe was the real deal. Tyrod wishes he could play like Joe. 1 Quote
DC Grid Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. Because he was a more athletic Trent Edwards when it came to his inability to take risks. The guy could run, and he could throw it deep, but he needed guys to be college level open on 10-15 yard out routs to even consider throwing it. He didn’t work midrange over the middle so he became really easy to figure out. Play your safeties back and play contain and he’ll just throw it away or throw it too short. He was the king of throwing it to the flat on 3rd and long. Sadly he was still a better QB than Losman, and he could’ve been better than Fitz or the Bills Era Bledsoe, IF he had any guts at all. But he learned behind Flacco to never take a risk and only make the throws you can guarantee will be complete, and without flaccos rocket arm, that meant not a ton of throws. It’s also part of why Flacco fell off a cliff himself because the second he lost a few MPH on his fastball he became too scared to play. Edited June 30, 2023 by DC Grid Typos Quote
FITZamishRIFLE Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Tyrol was special because it was at the time when you could truly see a light at the end of the tunnel. 3rd best QB since JK12 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Taylor had a useful skill set. I didn't hate him. However, I thought his ceiling was not high enough to enable the Bills to ever be a serious threat to do anything in the playoffs, or perhaps even to make the playoffs. For that reason, I was never opposed to getting rid of him if the Bills could find a QB with a higher ceiling. Fortunately, they did. Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 20 hours ago, QB Bills said: The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is revered here and Tyrod Taylor isn't should answer this question for you. Not very complicated. Yes. One is black and one is white. 1 1 Quote
harmonkillebrew Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 T was great. Beautiful deep ball, exciting runner. He's easily in the top echelon from the past 20 years. Fitz gets more love b/c he gives it back. I don't think Tryod has expressed his love for B-lo in the same way. But T is way over Losman, EJ Manuel, Captain check-down and other duds from the 17 years of futility 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted July 1, 2023 Author Posted July 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Shaw66 said: Why isn't he more revered? Well, us old guys remember Joe Ferguson, and Joe was the real deal. Tyrod wishes he could play like Joe. Why must he be compared to Joe Ferguson ? 1 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 Has Tyrod ever been brought out as a legend of the Bills? 5 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: he could be entertaining... Yes, it's always great to lineup behind the guard in shotgun Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted July 1, 2023 Posted July 1, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 7:34 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: “Pure trash.” Proves the point of my thread and the hate he receives for no reason. As my esteemed college statistics professor said, “one result does not prove a hypothesis” 1 Quote
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