Why is Tyrod Taylor not more revered in the Bills fan base?

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

You're only as good as your last performance and his last performance was horrible. Yet ultimately he allowed to get us Josh Allen which was a great thing. 

His last performance was a W when he played for Houston. 340+ all purpose yards and 2 TDs. I watched it.  
 

 

[GaryPinC]

I liked Tyrod and he was an important bridge QB.  My optimism for him fizzled by the end of year 1.

 

On the field, for me, he was a slight step up from Kyle Orton. 

 

Both of them left me with vomit in the back of my throat.  They were never going to do what it took to win a game down the stretch.

 

Kyle, because he didn't give a crap to risk himself.  Tyrod, because he didn't seem to have a clue about when or the need to take risks.  

 

Fitz I have respect for on the field because he gave it all he had and took the risks as needed. 

 

I'll take losing while trying to win over cowardly losing 100x over.

[Manther]

18 hours ago, Capco said:

Ironically, I was just thinking about this yesterday.  Granted, the league wasn't as pass-friendly in the 80s and 90s as it is today, but Tyrod has a higher career passer rating (88.2) than Jim Kelly (84.4).  His passer rating during his three years as a Bill was 92.5, and he only committed 21 turnovers (16 INTs, 5 lost fumbles).

He almost broke the record for the highest single season passer rating by a Bills QB in his first year as a starter (99.6 vs Kelly's 101.2 in 1990), and I believe that season counts as the third-highest passer rating in team history (behind Kelly in 1990 and Allen in 2020).

Tyrod also averaged very low attempts per game.

[BuffaloMatt]

I know . . . . . . . . we all miss football. 

[Patrick Duffy]

12 hours ago, QB Bills said:

The fact that Ryan Fitzpatrick is revered here and Tyrod Taylor isn't should answer this question for you. Not very complicated.

 

 

Yup, not complicated at all simply just comparing only the performance between both of them. Even though Fitz and the INTs was frustrating he still was a gun slinger and a more exciting QB. 

 

 

[Nextmanup]

3 hours ago, RichRiderBills said:

He was solid, but his limitations were really visible in games like the Jags playoff game. We really could have won that game w some mediocre QB play. 

If only he had been capable of delivering mediocre play!

 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Ty was extremely conservative, hence the reason he's not more revered. 

[947]

If Josh's career had turned out like Darnold's, and the drought was still in-effect today, there probably would be some reverence toward Tyrod. He did help break the drought, but that doesn't change the fact that he wasn't very good. Having a real QB & a legit offense now, helps us forget celebrating mediocrity during the Tyrod years.

 

It's like when your parents get you a used beat-up 89' Chevy Cavalier when you turn 16 & it's the greatest thing that ever happened to you. Then when you buy a new luxury car in your 30s, you laugh remembering about being so happy to drive that old POS.

Edited June 30, 2023 by 947

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

His last performance was a W when he played for Houston. 340+ all purpose yards and 2 TDs. I watched it.  
 

 

Last performance for the Bills*

[Airseven]

I’m not sure “revered” is the right term here…

[Iraq Vet]

Here is my thing about TT.... since he left the Bills.  Ummm....  nothing special   So he was just an average QB.  You would think with the high skill of OC's and QB coaches in the NFL someone would have made something great out of him, if he had elite talent in him.   Owners spend millions on amazing coaches, training staff, specialist, scouts.... everyone missed it over the last 10 years? 

 

To paraphrase Dennis Green  "He was... what we thought he was"....an average QB

 

Sometimes teams do miss out on a QB... but after 10 years of seeing him? 

[Iraq Vet]

I think he might be trying to beat Fitzmagic for the most teams played for....A career back-up, that can hold it together for a game or 2. 

 

TT.

Baltimore Ravens (2011–2014)
Buffalo Bills (2015–2017)
Cleveland Browns (2018)
Los Angeles Chargers (2019–2020)
Houston Texans (2021)
New York Giants (2022–present)

 

Fitz

St. Louis Rams (2005–2006)

Cincinnati Bengals (2007–2008)

Buffalo Bills (2009–2012)

Tennessee Titans (2013)

Houston Texans (2014)

New York Jets (2015–2016)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2017–2018)

Miami Dolphins (2019–2020)

Washington Football Team (2021)

 

 

 

[Freddie's Dead]

17 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

I'm mostly upset he never mentioned we were mispronouncing his name for 3 years

 

Exactly.  WTF allows the press to mispronounce his name for years?  Just gutless.

[mykidsdad]

I dont think there is any hate for TT. But most Bills fans think he was Meh. In the NFL that makes you millions of dollars as a qb, but just won't get you a lot of love from fans. We made the playoffs with him for which I will always be grateful, but we were there because of the D. Hate? no hate. Ambivalence, probably. 

[stuvian]

I'll have you know that I am a proud owner of a TT Fathead. That said, as great as Tyrod was, our hearts belong to Davis Webb

[Bobby Hooks]

20 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I never ever understood the hate for Tyrod Taylor. He was a dynamic athlete that defenses had to properly game plan against and played a big role in breaking the 17 year drought. I think he is one of the better dual threats of all time and it’s cool seeing the contrast between TT and Allen as runners. Why is he not a bigger part of Bills’ lore? He got done what a **** load of previous QBs couldn’t. It’s not like Losman, Bledsoe, or Fitz didn’t have good defenses too. So I really don’t wanna hear how the defense alone propelled us there. It was also Tyrod’s legs and low turnover rate + big play ability as well. 

 

I never “hated” Tyrod, but he was infuriating to watch. He’d just never let the ball go. Dudes would be wide open, and he’d just refuse to sling it. 
 

I remember screaming, “throw it!” 
 

He never would. That’s why I’ll never get down on Allen for turnovers as long as he keeps taking his shots. The alternative is playing safe, and boring football to limit mistakes. He lasted too long, and I hope I never have to watch that kind of football again. 
 

I have nothing against him, but I’m certainly not going to praise him either. 

[Lfod]

I sometimes wonder why people bring up Tyrod. People must like reading posts about how he was average. I know you can't have loved his time in Buffalo that much. 

 

Now we have more Dynamic versions of him around to say he was the broke mans Lamar Jackson. 

 

He was alright until he wasn't. It was cool at first, you hope for the guy then you get bored with how he plays. I'm glad he got a shot and did decent but after while it was time to move on. 

 

I've seen back ups come along and have a nice little run to the point people talk about them being the starter. Then they fizzle out for one reason or another. 

 

You can't be a hater if your not thinking about or talking about Tyrod. It's not hard to understand he was not that memorable. I've seen a backup win the Superbowl and the fans probably don't give him the love that some of you feel for Tyrod. 

 

He had some haters at the end of his run but that was more people hating on when people still talking about him being good making excuses for him. 

 

It's fandom. People hate on McDermott for getting us in the Playoffs every year since his arrival and he's done more than Tyrod did. 

Edited June 30, 2023 by Lfod

[folz]

I don't think anyone hated Tyrod then or hates Tyrod now. It's just that at the end of his tenure, most fans could see that he wasn't going to get us where we wanted to go and wanted a change, an upgrade. It had absolutely nothing to do with race (please). It had to do with football. We have wanted to move on from every QB, white or black (including Fitz), who couldn't get it done. Most were done with Fitz by the end of his run too (and Losman and Edwards and...). Fitz just had a bigger and more likable personality, so more fans were attached to him in that way. It's laughable for anyone to pull the race card when it comes to Tyrod.

 

2015 

League average of top 37 QBs (at least 200 pass attempts):

3,245 yards and 21 TDs

Tyrod: 3,035 yards and 20 TDs 

[21 QBs had more yards and 16 QBs had more TDs than the league average in 2015]

 

2016

League average of top 33 QBs (at least 200 pass attempts):

3,582 yards and 22 TDs

Tyrod: 3,023 yards and 17 TDs

[19 QBs had more yards and 16 QBs had more TDs than the league average in 2016]

 

2017

League average of top 35 QBs (at least 200 pass attempts)

3,132 yards and 19 TDs

Tyrod: 2,799 yards and 14 TDs

[21 QBs had more yards and TDs than the league average in 2017]

 

Tyrod was a below average passer:

2015: 25th in pass yards and 25th in passing TDs

2016: 25th in passing yards and 24th in passing TDs

2017: 21st in passing yards and 23rd in passing TDs

 

And even if you add in his rushing yards, he would still be:

2015: 20th in total yards by a QB (and that's not adding in other QB's rushing stats, so could be a touch lower still)

2016: 20th in total yards by a QB (again not counting other QB's rushing stats)

2017:  21st in total yards by a QB (not counting other QB rushing stats)

 

He was a bottom third of the league QB any way you crack it. Of course everyone was ready to move on after 3 years of that. And there was no hidden potential left to tap. That was his 5th, 6th, and 7th year in the league. That was his ceiling. I think everyone liked Tyrod as a person, just not as their starting QB. I like Tyrod and he will always be part of Bills history for being the QB when we broke the drought, but I don't revere him because his play wasn't good enough for that type of reverence.

 

 

[Patrick Duffy]

8 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

 

I never “hated” Tyrod, but he was infuriating to watch. He’d just never let the ball go. Dudes would be wide open, and he’d just refuse to sling it. 
 

I remember screaming, “throw it!” 
 

He never would. That’s why I’ll never get down on Allen for turnovers as long as he keeps taking his shots. The alternative is playing safe, and boring football to limit mistakes. He lasted too long, and I hope I never have to watch that kind of football again. 
 

I have nothing against him, but I’m certainly not going to praise him either. 

 

Lol, such a familiar thing a whole lot of us went through and is likely the main thing if not the only thing that first comes to mind when his name is mentioned

[MarkyMannn]

19 hours ago, Dopey said:

THROW THE EFFIN BALL ALREADY!!!

Then throws a 3 yard pattern on 3rd & 8 🤬🤬🤬